Posted on 01/27/2008 7:12:50 AM PST by 3AngelaD
SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION, Defending America at the United Nations And Abroad, By John Bolton; THE GREAT EXPERIMENT, The Story of Ancient Empires, Modern States, And the Quest for a Global Nation, By Strobe Talbott
...John Bolton, most recently President Bush's ambassador to the United Nations, and Strobe Talbott, President Clinton's deputy secretary of state and now president of the Brookings Institution, have some things in common...Their differences, however, far outweigh their similarities...Talbott believes that global governance is coming -- that "individual states will increasingly see it in their interest to form an international system that is far more cohesive, far more empowered by its members, and therefore far more effective than the one we have today." Whether the United Nations will be the centerpiece of this new system is less clear to him. In Talbott's view, the U.N. has the advantage of universal membership, global scope and a comprehensive agenda that makes it indispensable as a convener of governments and legitimizer of decisions, but also the disadvantage of being spread too thin; the sheer number and diversity of its members is a drag on its effectiveness. "To offset that defect," Talbott writes, "the U.N. needs to be incorporated into an increasingly variegated network of structures and arrangements -- some functional in focus, others geographic; some intergovernmental, others based on systematic collaboration with the private sector, civil society, and NGOs." ...Only in this way, he contends, will the world be able to deal with such clear dangers as a new wave in nuclear proliferation and a tipping point in global climate change.
Bolton is skeptical of such visions....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
This all started back in the 30’s with the New Deal progressives and “fellow travelers”. It has manifested itself today into the Democrat party and to a certain extent Republicans as well(McCain).
I have the utmost respect for Ambassador Bolton and believe he left the Bush admin because he chose to stick to his principles intead of adopting those of a globalist governing view....
CHENY/BOLTON 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strobe Talbot’s most memorable quote to me was, “It’s pronounced Tall-Butt, damn it!” to which I replied, “I guess you are in favor of truth in advertising because you are a tall butt.”
The Council on Foreign Relations started all this global crap back when Wilson was in office.
I haven’t found out for sure, but it appears Bolton has turned his back on the Council as well.
Very rare bird indeed.
It would be no surprise to me that he was an agent of Soviet influence.
I remember his articles well. Total defeatist just as we were winning. I think he is what Lenin called a “fellow traveler,” or perhaps a “useful idiot.” Alger Hiss must have changed his diapers. In any case, the thought of him being Secretary of State scares the hell out of me.
Strobe’s fingerprints were all over the Clinton Administration. I don’t think we can take another dose.
Do you think he got beat up a lot as a kid with that first name?
Very rare bird indeed."
Only if you have no ambition to be appointed to a position in our gov't., or at least one that requires that your appointment be approved by the Senate.
Isn't he what is referred to as a "Red Diaper Baby?" I could be wrong. There are so many of them among the Boomers, it's hard to keep track.
It goes back farther than that.
Woodrow Wilson and his League of Nations, (actually the brainchild of his eminence grise Edward Mandell House), was the first concerted effort towards global governance.
Thankfully the US Senate of the time had the foresight to keep us out of that Wilsonian attempt to destroy America’s sovereignity.
You are correct. I belive in the late 20’s and into the 30’s actual policies began the process we are seeing today among those who would prefer our dominance in the wrold to cease....
A must read - Shared Sovereignty
http://www.alanalexandroff.com/Krasner.htm
Stephen Krasner is one of Condi Rice’s advisors. He was her former professor at Stanford. Krasner has a different take on sovereignty than the average American.
Sorry, but if you carry on about the Trilateral Commission, CFR, and the Bilderberg Group, people will just write you off as a kook.
However, if you write a book like this
“The Climate Change Challenge and the Failure of Democracy”
and post opinion pieces that say:
“Liberal democracy is sweet and addictive and indeed in the most extreme case, the USA, unbridled individual liberty overwhelms many of the collective needs of the citizens.”
[http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=6878 ],
why, then, you are just a realistic progressive, seeking the greater good for the planet.
Collectivist totalitarianism did not die with the Soviet Union, it just became Al Gore’s Green/Global Warming movement. Bilderberg, CFR, they are just elitist clubs for the most influential of the collectivists. But it’s a mindset, not an organization that we need to fight.
I wasn’t being critical of you, because all those you named are bad groups, but it’s easy to not see the forest because of all the trees. Those groups have influence and success to the extent that the collectivist mindset is an acceptable way of life.
I wasn’t being critical of you, because all those you named are bad groups, but it’s easy to not see the forest because of all the trees. Those groups have influence and success to the extent that the collectivist mindset is an acceptable way of life.
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