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Gagarin was not the first cosmonaut (says Pravda)
Pravda ^ | 26 January 2008

Posted on 01/27/2008 4:19:04 AM PST by jalisco555

As 40 years have passed since Gagarin’s flight, new sensational details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko, senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office 456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday. According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959. "All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never officially published," Rudenko said. He explained that all these pilots took part in so-called sub- orbital flights, i.e., their goal was not to orbit around the earth, which Gagarin later did, but make a parabola-shaped flight. "The cosmonauts were to reach space heights in the highest point of such an orbit and then return to the Earth," Rudenko said. According to his information, Ledovskikh, Shaborin and Mitkov were regular test pilots, who had not had any special training, Interfax reports. "Obviously, after such a serious of tragic launches, the project managers decided to cardinally change the program and approach the training of cosmonauts much more seriously in order to create a cosmonaut detachment," Rudenko said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cosmonauts; gagarin; pravda; space; spaceexploration; spaceprogram; ussr
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Interesting report, especially considering the source.
1 posted on 01/27/2008 4:19:07 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555

i remember when i was a kid many stories about failed Soviet missions in space... “Argosy” magazine and similar had sensational articles about them as i recall.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 4:23:23 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: jalisco555

They couldn’t find any chimps?


3 posted on 01/27/2008 4:25:58 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Just - my - humble - opinion.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
They couldn’t find any chimps?

Actually they started with a dog, who also died.

4 posted on 01/27/2008 4:28:19 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555

So after the THIRD spacecraft crashes or blows up, they decide to actually train their “pilots” to be cosmonaut!


5 posted on 01/27/2008 4:28:49 AM PST by Burr5
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

They didn’t need to. The Soviets never valued individual human life, unless it was a ranking party member.


6 posted on 01/27/2008 4:29:10 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: jalisco555

Makes you wonder what Yuri Gagarin was thinking as they strapped him in.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 4:29:37 AM PST by sphinx
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To: jalisco555

Suborbital manned flights BEFORE the launching of the tiny Sputnik 1 seems a little unlikely!


8 posted on 01/27/2008 4:29:57 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: chilepepper

Imagine if Alan Shepard’s first flight had ended in disaster. Would he have gone down the memory hole? Highly doubtful.


9 posted on 01/27/2008 4:30:19 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555
Thanks alot, Pravda.

Now we've gotta go back and change everything.

The history books, Trivial Pursuit...

Freakin' commies.

10 posted on 01/27/2008 4:31:50 AM PST by andyandval
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To: sphinx
Makes you wonder what Yuri Gagarin was thinking as they strapped him in.

Gagarin was a brave man, there's no denying that.

11 posted on 01/27/2008 4:31:57 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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It does an injustice to Laika to say that she simply “died.” She was left in space with no means to return her home, to starve or suffocate to death, by the cold-blooded communists.


12 posted on 01/27/2008 4:33:05 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Suborbital manned flights BEFORE the launching of the tiny Sputnik 1 seems a little unlikely!

Maybe right after. Might have been aiming for a double propaganda coup.

13 posted on 01/27/2008 4:33:24 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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It does an injustice to Laika to say that she simply “died.” She was left in space with no means to return her home, to starve or suffocate to death, by the cold-blooded communists.

True enough. It was an act of extreme cruelty to kill a dog that way just to make a propaganda point.

14 posted on 01/27/2008 4:34:51 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: mvpel
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Can you elaborate on Laika ?

RIP


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15 posted on 01/27/2008 4:36:05 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (With Fred Thompson Gone for 2008 ... I'll Vote for Mitt ... and Have a Serious Drink !)
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To: jalisco555

What happened? Why the discredit? Did his kids move to Queens?


16 posted on 01/27/2008 4:37:51 AM PST by kinghorse
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What happened? Why the discredit? Did his kids move to Queens?

LOL. Maybe someone just wanted to correct an historical injustice. Doesn't take anything away from Gagarin though.

17 posted on 01/27/2008 4:41:40 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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Laika died five to seven hours after launch of overheating due to inadequate temperature control systems.

The scientists had planned to kill her with a serving of poison food after several days, but she died accidentally before they could do so.

Her death was no more cruel than that of dogs and other animals routinely used in the US for animal experiments, and it was a great deal more productive scientifically than tests of new skin cream.


18 posted on 01/27/2008 4:42:26 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Patton@Bastogne
If you google Soviet Dogs in Space you will find several links. Here's one.
19 posted on 01/27/2008 4:51:33 AM PST by Loud Mime (It is easier to wash dirt off your hands than blood = Gladiator)
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To: chilepepper

http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/


20 posted on 01/27/2008 5:01:27 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Being an idealist excuses nothing. Hitler was an idealist.)
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