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The Epic Collapse of Rudy Giuliani
POLITICAL LORE.COM ^ | 26 JANUARY 2008 | POLITICAL LORE

Posted on 01/26/2008 5:31:02 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

In four days, on the night of January 29th , Rudy Giuliani will know the fate of his political career. The Republican Presidential candidate and former Mayor of New York City is pushing all of his chips into the middle on the state of Florida. Anything but a first place finish will for all intents and purposes end the former frontrunner’s chance at the Republican nomination. Just two short months ago Giuliani led Florida by a full 20 percentage points over Mitt Romney, but as of today Giuliani trails McCain and Romney by an average of about 5%. This represents a 25 percent nosedive in the polls.

So what the hell happened? This is the man that cleaned up the capital of the western world and bravely helped his city recover after the devastating attacks of September 11th. Well, what happened was the voters began to pay attention. While Rudy was enjoying the perks that come with being the GOP front-runner, the rest of the candidates were busy carving out their niche in the election by championing an issue to give their campaign a distinguished voice. Mitt Romney is the accomplished venture capitalist with business savvy and mannequin good looks. McCain presented himself as the war hero who will not let the troops come home, this makes him “tough on terror.” Mike Huckabee branded himself the “Christian Leader” and has tried to keep a cross hovering over his shoulder as often as possible. Fred Thompson was the champion of gun rights who honed his political wit on the set of Law and Order and Law and Order: SVU. Ron Paul has gone against the grain by telling the American people the truth and he is the Champion of the Constitution.

Rudy’s issue became not cleaning up crime in New York City, but simply holding the title of mayor at the time of the September 11th attacks. The majority of the American people have yet to make the connection of how that would make him a great President and I don’t see it either. Even Tancredo made a name for himself with immigration.

Then just as the American people began to realize that Rudy didn’t have an issue the scandals began to roll in one after another, and they would not go away. Bernard Kerik, Giuliani’s former driver who worked his way up to New York City’s police chief under the close tutelage of Mayor Rudy, was indicted on Federal corruption charges. This scandal single handedly exposed Giuliani’s lack of judgment when making important decisions because Giuliani not only promoted Kerik to Police Chief but he also recommended him for Director of Homeland Security. The American people began to worry that if Rudy’s right hand man was facing a laundry list of federal indictments, then what would his eventual Presidential cabinet would be a nightmare.

The Kerik scandal was just one of many scandals to plague Rudy’s campaign. Others included having New York City’s finest walk his mistress’s dog, allowing his law firm to do business with sworn enemies of the United States…the list goes on and on.

And this is not to mention that the man suffers from uncontrollable giggling fits. He has been heard giggling during important moments of GOP Presidential debates. He also giggled his way through most of an extremely important Meet the Press interview. The general feeling towards Rudy after such pathetic performances was pity and embarrassment because nobody enjoys watching a man publicly self destruct.

But don’t feel too bad for the guy he will always have the lecture circuit and quite honestly, I think we will be more comfortable there. He will also get a chance to catch up on his reading.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; giuliani; rudy
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To: CaptainK
His family situation was too ugly.

When your kids won’t show up on the stump, you’re pretty much done.

That's what did him for me.

101 posted on 01/28/2008 4:38:40 AM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: Diamond
You are the most clueless of all. Abortion, unfortunately, is law. And every woman that has one and doctor that performs it are killing. Trying interferring w/the next person going to have an abortion and read your litany above - you will be arrested in interfering with THEIR rights - like it or not - that's the law. Rudy, as mayor, supports THEIR right to choose. It's THEIR decision, not his.

He doesn’t demonstrate hate towards any person.....He certainly displays indifference to mothers and children brutalized by abortion-killing, doesn't he?

IT'S NOT HIS CHOICE!! DUH! Save your litany for the mothers, fathers and doctors. Your response is - abortion is wrong and it's all Rudy's fault! You got on a bandwagon and you can't see how ridiculous you appear.

And since when is it the duty of government to love the person and hate the sin, and never condemn?
>BR> You spoken just like the Pharisee's that Jesus called hypocrites! How could you point scripture out to me when you don't know it yourself. That's exactly what the Pharasees did to Jesus. Jesus was about love - not condemning. Did Jesus condemn? NO He did not come to condemn the world but to save it. He loved the sinner and said asked if anyone could cast the first stone. He hates sin but he overcame it with love. And he told the person - the one who committed the act - to repent - not the government at the time. Again, he did tell the 'religious ' people at the time, the Pharisees - those pointing at others - they were hypocrites.

My whole point is - this all started to get Hunter in when Rudy was leading. And the vicious attacks on Rudy pursued over and over - it was all fair game. Now Rudy hasn't been in the lead, and I DO NOT SEE any of these vicious attacks on Mitt, McCain or the others - and most are for abortion. You - not specifically you - but the hate crowd used lies, twisting of facts repeatedly - it was nothing about truth but to condemn a man to get your favorite in. God works in mysterious ways, Hunter never made it very far, unfortunately for us.
102 posted on 01/28/2008 3:12:32 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Clemenza

Least Christian? Or maybe to your lying eyes, least Christian. Rudy is honest, he’s not a flip flipper He shows love to the sinner. But you. being a agnostic, are clueless to what true Christianity is all about.


103 posted on 01/28/2008 3:28:35 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: SamAdams76
it is obvious that Rudy enjoyed dressing up as a woman just a little too much.

So you looked at photos and then added your own personal experince and you came to a conclusion.

Since that's the way it works for you - let me say - I find your scrutinizing of Rudy's photos and pointing out the hours supposedly spent in a chair and how it's so obvious to you that Rudy enjoyed dressing up a bit too much to your liking - an obsession on someone you think is a queer. If, by your observation, Rudy is enjoying it a bit too much to your liking, are you jealous that he is comfortable in his own skin?

Your time spent observing smiles, gestures, makeup, clothes and recalling your past experience along with your obvious enjoyment in posting it all, can lead anyone to a conclusion. Would you like that? IMO, you spend way too much time observing someone you think is a queer. You get my drift?
104 posted on 01/28/2008 4:36:39 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
You are the most clueless of all. Abortion, unfortunately, is law.

Let me ask you this; which is lawful, to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?

An unjust law is no law at all. Not to mention a bunch of men in black robes making up the "law" as they go. What part of "... No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" do you, Rudy and the Supreme Court not understand?

Trying interferring w/the next person going to have an abortion and read your litany above - you will be arrested in interfering with THEIR rights - like it or not - that's the law. Rudy, as mayor, supports THEIR right to choose. It's THEIR decision, not his.

There is no right to kill the innocent, and you, Rudy and Blackmun in Roe v Wade, have to turn language upside down to twist the wholesale killing of innocent children into a "right". It is not a right and it never will be. It is tyranny, enforced by the police power of the state. I am not clueless to the reality that the state enforces it's edicts. I am just saying that Rudy may want to wash his hands of the bloodshed by saying that "it's not his choice", but the bottom line is that he will do nothing to stop the use the killing force of the state being used to condemn the innocent and letting the guilty go free. Why would I ever willingly with my vote entrust the powers of the Presidency to such a man? I will never vote for anyone who either does not understand and/or hates the basic principles and precepts upon which this Nation was founded, and by which the Constitution was written.

You spoken just like the Pharisee's that Jesus called hypocrites! How could you point scripture out to me when you don't know it yourself. That's exactly what the Pharasees did to Jesus. Jesus was about love - not condemning. Did Jesus condemn? NO He did not come to condemn the world but to save it. He loved the sinner and said asked if anyone could cast the first stone. He hates sin but he overcame it with love. And he told the person - the one who committed the act - to repent - not the government at the time. Again, he did tell the 'religious ' people at the time, the Pharisees - those pointing at others - they were hypocrites.

You have to twist that Scripture beyond recognition to apply it to the role of government. We're talking about the American form and principles of government, not individual repentance and forgiveness, which is what that passage is about. If you want to cite the Bible, Romans 13 is a Biblical passage that defines what the authority of human government is, its source, and its role. You will note that the function of government in that passage is to punish evil doers with the sword, not to "save the world", to "love sinners" or to "overcome sin with love." The government has no power to do any of those things. But when a government punishes those who do good it is doing the exact opposite of what it is authorized by God to do. As far as I'm concerned, as the Declaration states, when a government becomes destructive of "these ends"; i.e., the protection of inalienable rights, it is the right of the people to alter it or abolish it.

Cordially,

105 posted on 01/28/2008 6:35:28 PM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond

Just to let you know - I just got this and have no intention of reading it. Read the first paragraph and stopped. You live your way and I will do the same. If you follow the commandment of love, you’ll fulfill them all. So, to the hate crowd, when it returns to you know it’s because you planted over the top hatred. That’s it. Good-night.


106 posted on 01/28/2008 6:43:10 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Yeah, but when another 9/11 comes along, Rudy comes back with Bernie Kerick and other similar ruthless guys.

Mitt comes back with lawyers.

I know all about how he marches with gays, effed around on
his wives and suspect lib tendencies. But they don’t include
going easy on our country’s enemies, and thats the number
one job any president has.


107 posted on 01/28/2008 6:50:46 PM PST by rahbert
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To: presently no screen name
I understand that you do not deign to answer the question: "Which is lawful, to do good or to do evil; to save life or to kill?" You will not answer it, but it is the question Jesus asked the Pharisees who were lecturing Him about the "law" which they twisted into a prohibition against healing a man on the Sabbath. It is noteworthy that the Pharisees, to whom you compare me, did not answer the question, either.

Pleasant dreams.

Cordially

108 posted on 01/28/2008 7:36:38 PM PST by Diamond
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To: rahbert

The number one job of any president is to protect the country from invasion and enforce the law (Constitution).

Ruby Julie-Annie won’t do that and he has shown he won’t do that.


109 posted on 01/29/2008 1:44:35 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: shield
Do you know how dumb that sounds? If you understood his strategy then you’d understand how I know they are his. Take some time and look into it, you might learn something.

Care to take that back? 30% reporting... Rudy gets 134,849 votes.

Looks like he'll be lucky to get 400,000 total votes, let alone the "early voters."

110 posted on 01/29/2008 5:19:13 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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