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Cadaver Exhibit: Who Said OK?
The Los Angeles Times ^ | January 25, 2008 | By Marc Lifsher

Posted on 01/26/2008 10:48:27 AM PST by JACKRUSSELL

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To: durasell

“The guy who adapts segway/wheelchair technology to a gurney for going down stairs is gonna make a fortune.”

I saw the video for the wheelchair that can do stairs, and thought the same thing. I am not really mechanically inclined, but how hard could it be?

I have been a paramedic for 23 years, and have never transported a 300+ pounder that lived on the first floor. NY is a killer. Lots of stairs, not enough large elevators. Live in Georgia, which is not so vertical, but probably much higher percentage of grossly obese. Getting too old for this stuff .


61 posted on 01/26/2008 12:23:15 PM PST by ga medic
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To: Bushwacker777
A young woman with me who started viewing the section containing children preserved at different stages of fetal development actually told me her pro-choice views were shaken when she saw what a baby really looks like in the womb. Something to consider.

Worth repeating.
62 posted on 01/26/2008 12:25:47 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: durasell

Arguably not true, but ironic just the same.


63 posted on 01/26/2008 12:27:00 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: ga medic

You would need some kind of tank-like treads that extend and retract on the bottom, then a wider wheel-base, and segway type gyros for stability, also some shocks to smooth the bumps and a low center of gravity.

The real trick would be speed — it would have to negotiate stairs quickly. More quickly than two ems guys carrying it.


64 posted on 01/26/2008 12:28:20 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: txcaprockgal

I think yours a reasonable, in fact very eloquent post.
Everyone seems to be putting on their “Dr Science” lab coat, but is actually going to a carnival sideshow.


65 posted on 01/26/2008 12:28:40 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: gusopol3

We were only parents in class of 60 who refused premission. Several students later expressed regret at having gone.


Why and why?


66 posted on 01/26/2008 12:29:59 PM PST by Grunthor (What if Mitt offered the VP slot to Ralph Reed?)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

You may walk into the exhibit thinking it’s a sideshow — you walk out in awe.


67 posted on 01/26/2008 12:30:05 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

I do not know if this is the same show that I saw at the Museum of Science in Boston a couple of years ago.

I can say however that that Boston show was one of the most macabre things that I have ever set my own eyes on.

I did not understand the appeal of it at all.


68 posted on 01/26/2008 12:30:12 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Everyone seems to be putting on their “Dr Science” lab coat, but is actually going to a carnival sideshow.

The exhibit will be coming to the Cincinnati Museum Center on Feb 1. I'll be there. I think the intricacies of the human body are fascinating. While there, I'm quite sure I'll be awed by God's creation.

My 9 year old wants nothing at all to do with it and that is perfectly ok with me.

69 posted on 01/26/2008 12:32:55 PM PST by Dianna
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To: gusopol3

“anyone, it seems to me, that’s been to even a few code blues knows how hard it is to retain that sense of awe at the moment time stops for an individual.”

You are wrong. I have seen hundreds of people die or mortally injured. There is never a sense of disrespect when someone passes from this life to the next. ER and EMS professionals always strive to be respectful during these times. We are all too aware that this could be us or one of our loved ones, and we do everything that we can to make sure that the victim and family are treated with complete respect. Most of us are very religious.

Personally, it was the process of watching victims die, which solidified my belief in God, and the life that lies beyond ours. One minute there is this living and breathing person, full of energy, and then there is nothing, no energy. Sometimes, you can almost feel the energy, as it moves on to another place. It was clear to me that it didn’t just disappear, that truly, time doesn’t stop for the individual, only time in this world stops.

How many code blues have you been to, that you would make such an assessment?


70 posted on 01/26/2008 12:34:05 PM PST by ga medic
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To: Dianna

“I’m quite sure I’ll be awed by God’s creation.”

I’m sure that you will. I do think your 9 year old is wise. I think most 9 year olds would be a little young for the exhibit.


71 posted on 01/26/2008 12:35:29 PM PST by ga medic
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To: ga medic

Now THAT is an eloquent post. Thank you.


72 posted on 01/26/2008 12:36:18 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: ga medic

I’m going to use your post as a placemarker. Interesting discussions here so far.


74 posted on 01/26/2008 12:41:10 PM PST by dbwz (kthxbai)
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To: WestwardHo

It desensitises us to the worth and dignity of every person created by God.

So you believe that God created this amazing, and incredible complex body for us, yet he doesn’t want us to understand how it works or what it looks like? Why would that be? Does it make us less worthy, if we prefer that our bodies be used to show people how miraculous the human body really is? Why is there no dignity in that?

I don’t really understand this idea that somehow God is pleased that we are drained of all our bodily fluids, heavily made up and repaired, dressed up in our favorite clothes and put in a silk lined box for burial. Yet, when our bodies are used to show others how truly magnificent the gift of life and human body is, he views this as despicable. Could you explain the theology behind that to me?


76 posted on 01/26/2008 12:42:46 PM PST by ga medic
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To: durasell

I think the wheelchairs were pretty slow. EMS is pretty quick, although I am getting slower, as I get older.

If you invent it, I know a bunch of guys who would jump at the chance to test it out for you.


77 posted on 01/26/2008 12:46:39 PM PST by ga medic
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To: sandyeggo
Would these children be the victims of the forced abortions under China's one-child policy. . . that may prevent others from choosing to abort?

Finished it for ya.
79 posted on 01/26/2008 12:53:58 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Patrons found one exhibit, the "Maverick Cadaver", particularly unsettling.

80 posted on 01/26/2008 12:54:09 PM PST by Dagnabitt (McCain-Kennedy: Largest Amnesty Betrayal Bill in History. Defeated by Patriots.)
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