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CIA: Hackers Shut Down Power To Entire Cities
The Telegraph ^
| 25/01/2008
| By Tom Leonard in New York
Posted on 01/26/2008 4:37:22 AM PST by Fennie
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To: BikerJoe
To: trisham
What I'd really like, even more than a generator - that will only power up as long as gas is available - is an all weather pump on my well. I did put on a regular one - but it won't operate in winter...(Love Lehman's Catalog)
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posted on
01/26/2008 6:21:49 AM PST
by
maine-iac7
(",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
To: Fennie
Sounds like the work of Russian mafia.
John
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posted on
01/26/2008 6:22:51 AM PST
by
Diggity
To: Poser
I’ve wondered for some time why the computer systems that run power companies are accessible from online anyway. Aren’t there people there anyway? Call them up if something has to change.
And if they are unmanned stations, drive over and turn the switch or whatever.
To: Fennie
“Guest” workers are your friends.
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posted on
01/26/2008 6:45:47 AM PST
by
MrBambaLaMamba
(Obama for Caliph 2008!)
To: Fennie
Summary execution of hackers is one solution!
(not necessarily a good or desirable one, but it would make me say “serves ‘em right”)
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posted on
01/26/2008 6:46:19 AM PST
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
To: Fennie
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posted on
01/26/2008 6:48:56 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: mewzilla
"Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition"...often heard of in the utility industry. IIRC, a number of these systems still have components written in ...(gasp) FORTRAN.
Cheers!
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:28:50 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: RePunKlican87
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:30:04 AM PST
by
sweet_diane
(In my best Cartman voice: ~Screw you guys, sweets goin' home~ 217 days to kickoff! Roll Tide!)
To: maine-iac7
What backup system do todays cities have? Without power, we are dead in the water....We live on the edge more so today, perhaps, than at any other time in history. The power grid is fairly robust and power can be rerouted from distant plants. However, weird things can happen to the grid like in the NE blackout.
That said, you can have backups in your home for not too much money. There are generators that can run on your home's gas line and switch to diesel/gasoline if that goes down.
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:30:16 AM PST
by
varyouga
("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
To: trisham
We have a well, and when the power if off, we have no water.
As part of my "overreaction" to Y2K I moved out to the country and bought property that had wood stoves and a large pond.
I have only had to go out there and fill water containers once in the eight years since, but it is comforting to know it is out there if needed.
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:35:31 AM PST
by
cgbg
(Election 2008: A Long Ride On A Hillarinobama Short Bus.)
To: Poser
They’re not on the internet as if you can access a webpage to run everything.
The internet is the fastest and cheapest way to transfer data to pretty much anywhere so power companies use it to monitor and control some systems. Many substations and very small plants are actually remote controlled. It is very secure but nothing is 100% foolproof.
Even if they ran their own cables completely separate from the internet, the cables could still be cut at some point and intercepted. There is just no 100% secure way to transfer data in real time that fast.
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:41:46 AM PST
by
varyouga
("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
To: Poser
They’re not on the internet as if you can access a webpage to run everything.
The internet is the fastest and cheapest way to transfer data to pretty much anywhere so power companies use it to monitor and control some systems. Many substations and very small plants are actually remote controlled. It is very secure but nothing is 100% foolproof.
Even if they ran their own cables completely separate from the internet, the cables could still be cut at some point and intercepted. There is just no 100% secure way to transfer data in real time that fast.
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:41:52 AM PST
by
varyouga
("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
To: maine-iac7
That’s a great idea. Lehman’s Catalog?
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posted on
01/26/2008 7:53:54 AM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: cgbg
As part of my "overreaction" to Y2K I moved out to the country and bought property that had wood stoves and a large pond. I have only had to go out there and fill water containers once in the eight years since, but it is comforting to know it is out there if needed.****************
Ours was a gradual change after 9/11. We have two little streams that move through our property, so I guess we could boil water, if it came to that. You were smart to find a place with a pond.
Which always reminds me of a quote from one of the best movies ever made: "We have a pool and a pond. The pond would be good for you". :)
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posted on
01/26/2008 8:04:57 AM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: trisham
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posted on
01/26/2008 8:08:17 AM PST
by
WildcatClan
(The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
To: WildcatClan; maine-iac7
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posted on
01/26/2008 8:11:45 AM PST
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: trisham
I recommend investing in precious metals such as Gold, Silver, Steel and Lead.
A small sum of gold and silver will do wonders in the barter department. Steel and lead in the shape of a hand gun will do wonders to protect that investment.
.....Bob
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posted on
01/26/2008 8:29:41 AM PST
by
Lokibob
(Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
To: Lokibob
Don't forget alcohol for trading, bribes...
...and "medicinal" purposes.
Cheers!
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posted on
01/26/2008 8:52:02 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: varyouga
“It is very secure”
No such thing if billions of people have access to the network.
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posted on
01/26/2008 9:11:37 AM PST
by
Poser
(Willing to fight for oil)
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