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With Thompson out, Tom McClintock leans to Ron Paul
Los Angeles Times ^ | Jan 25, 2008 | Dan Morain

Posted on 01/25/2008 12:59:01 PM PST by CautiouslyHopeful

With Fred Thompson out of the presidential race, who's a self-respecting conservative to go for? Could it be, maybe, perhaps, a certain Republican-libertarian from Texas?

That's one question perplexing California state Sen. Tom McClintock, possibly the second-most-famous California Republican currently in office after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

McClintock created a stir two months when he endorsed Thompson’s presidential candidacy. Having run for governor, lieutenant governor and state controller, McClintock has shown that while he has not won a statewide contest, he can win GOP primaries, which conservatives tend to dominate. So heading into the Feb. 5 primary, McClintock’s endorsement is seen as important in California.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; donquixote; elections; fredthompson; mcclintock; paul; ronpaul; tommcclintock; tommiclintock
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To: papasmurf
Well if you are just learning about Ron and are interested in his specific proposals for implementing his ambitious I must tell you I have neither the time or patience to outline all of them at one time in one post...So how about we start with his "Comprehensive Economic Revitalization Plan".

You may find out that his plan is good. Many of his policies are popular with Americans so the Legislative Branch may need the kind of persuasion from their constituents that they got during the nomination of Harriet Myers for Ron to achieve his policies. The American people may not tolerate a Congress with two obstructionist political parties working together to undermine the will of the people through the Executive. Or would they?

321 posted on 01/25/2008 7:43:07 PM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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To: CatholicEagle
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322 posted on 01/25/2008 7:57:36 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: tpanther

You have one zapper, but thousands of mosquitoes go to it. They can’t resist the light.


323 posted on 01/25/2008 7:59:08 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: CatholicEagle

Then you shouldn’t.

The process of electing a POTUS is very much akin to the hiring process of a CEO.

Would you hire one who could not outline his plans for moving your company to greater heights?


324 posted on 01/25/2008 8:17:46 PM PST by papasmurf (No "Leftovers" for me.)
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To: dcwusmc
Actually, you have it just backwards... if we lose our Constitution and our freedom (all in the name of the ILLUSION of “security”), it won’t matter WHAT all the jihad johnnies do... we will no longer be a viable nation. Nor will we have anything left WORTH defending. Say what you will, shrinking fedgov MASSIVELY is the absolutely most important thing we can do as a nation... and NO ONE outside Dr. Paul is even mentioning that sad fact.

BUMP! Blackbird.

325 posted on 01/25/2008 8:27:37 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Go Ron Go!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
"I do not believe that any CIC, even the lefties, will put our own troops in danger."

It's not only that. It's also that he was so grudgingly slow to dis the outrageous tinfoil Un-truth squad. I had enough of that kinda crappola when Jimmy Carter was Presidunce and I don't want America to EVER go there again.

Dr. Paul also strikes me as another idiot that would pull another massively stupid trick like Jimmah did with the Shah of Iran, giving the murderous muslims another giant leap in taking over another country like maybe Lebanon, or some other.

Dr. Paul would probably take up with the Indian Gaming curse just like my disappointing standard bearer Tom McClintock here in CA. I grew up believing we were working on assimilating native Americans into our society, not setting up War Lords and little sovereign fifedoms isolated within the freest nation on earth.

What ever happened to that? I'll tell you what... Liberal plantationism, pure and simple and I still refuse to buy it. Gambling destroys too many lives just as booze has destroyed too many native American's lives!!!

Now if you can subscribe to that kind of libertarianism, along with dissing the WOD, then I say more power to ya! It's certainly a free country. It's not what's been in any Republican platform, my FRiend, so what's up with that???

I'm at the point with what's left of all these candidate clowns that they're all not measuring up and seem determined to simply sink to the politics of expediency and "every man for himself," bar none!!!

I know none of them can possibly be perfect, but my goodness, they seem hell bent on goin the other danged way... just as far as they think we will let them go!!!

At this poing I'm fully disenchanted with the seven dwarfs!!! Phhhhhhhht!!! Which one can you stomach???

326 posted on 01/25/2008 8:46:27 PM PST by SierraWasp (Please vote NO! On all CA propositions until further notice... Thank you!!!)
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To: Truthsearcher

Paint me a scenario in which the United States “loses” to Islamists.


327 posted on 01/25/2008 8:59:00 PM PST by Mark-in-Kentucky
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To: editor-surveyor; calcowgirl; Syncro
Which is precisely why I drove down to that political sesspool called San Franpsycho (at the time) and protested Bill Clinton while he was waggin that dog to keep us from seein what him and Monica were up/down to in the oval orofice! I think my sign read "Is Rape A Love Crime Or A Hate Crime, Mr. Clinton?"

Jimmy Carter sure put our troops in danger trying to rescue hostages in Iran after he screwed the pooch so badly nobody could seem to get anything done. Even Ronald Reagan sent the Marines to Lebanon and must have assumed those crazies would be too scared of 'em to ever try and blow them to kingdom come!!! WRONG!!!

328 posted on 01/25/2008 9:00:29 PM PST by SierraWasp (Please vote NO! On all CA propositions until further notice... Thank you!!!)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful
McClintock's marginalized enough as it is being a conservative Republican icon in a herd of RINOs. If Tom goes all-out for Paul, he's toast as far as statewide office is concerned.

He needs to think long and hard about this.

329 posted on 01/25/2008 9:05:07 PM PST by L.N. Smithee ("San Francisco Zoo" is redundant.)
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To: sandyeggo; antonius
Never thought I'd see myself post that...
I never thought I'd allow myself to even think it - but I have

= )

330 posted on 01/25/2008 9:08:06 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Thurston Peak
The mitster is the one with drunken ideology.

======= I recently reviewed an issues and positions statement from 1992 contrasting and comparing Romney and Kennedy in their senate battle that year. There were about 20 items listed. On about 18 of them Romney was as conservative as any candidate could be. Only on two of them—abortion and “equal rights” (code-speak for gay rights)—was he not.


Sooo, the mitster was born in 1947, that means that at the age of 45, almost half a century on earth, he still thought the killing of babies before they are born was ok.... = Totally ineligible for President.
331 posted on 01/25/2008 9:11:15 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Mark-in-Kentucky

Your children living under Sharia law.


332 posted on 01/25/2008 9:13:25 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

No way.


333 posted on 01/25/2008 9:14:34 PM PST by Shortstop7
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I see FR is being invaded by DUmmies today.


334 posted on 01/25/2008 9:14:38 PM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: mnehrling; calcowgirl
I would say that if "the new disciples of Paul" try to wrap themselves around conservatism, they're going to marginalize conservatism to the point that it will have as much credibility in America as the defunct Reform Party of Ross Perot and Jesse Ventura has today as opposed to what conservatism had in 1994 at it's zenith!!!

The left will sweep over all of us like a plague of locusts and foul every institution of government in this country and there won't be any magical flock of seagulls coming to gobble up the leftist locusts!!! As Rush said today, there will be a landslide of monumental proportions and guess who will get blamed for it... just guess!!!

335 posted on 01/25/2008 9:17:29 PM PST by SierraWasp (Please vote NO! On all CA propositions until further notice... Thank you!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Interesting R. P.
Ross Perot
Ron Paul

Deja vu


336 posted on 01/25/2008 9:20:40 PM PST by antceecee (where do we go from here Ollie?.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
So do nations. I'd prefer that we did not.

Then don't support a status-quo RINO who will keep us on the path we've been on which is the destruction of our sovereignty, the destruction of our constitution and civil liberties, the move towards the NAU, out of control debt that has taken us to the verge of bankrupcty.

It is the neoconservatives (and neolibs) who are destroying the country. If you, as you said, truly prefer that our country doesn't end, then support the only true constitutionalist and patriot, Ron Paul.

337 posted on 01/25/2008 9:25:17 PM PST by incindiary (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: antceecee

Yeah... It’s kinda like Pete and Repeat, here in CA’s Governor chair...


338 posted on 01/25/2008 9:25:20 PM PST by SierraWasp (Please vote NO! On all CA propositions until further notice... Thank you!!!)
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To: Redcloak
If Paul wasn’t a moonbat on the war, I’d support him. I like everything else I’ve heard him say, but the war’s a deal breaker.

since nobody left will (by their past record - not current claims) close the border, they're all bad on the war. This war is with fundamentalist Islam, not a couple of countries on another continent. That said you're right Ron Paul's a moonbat.

Let's hope for a brokered convention, and a new candidate that doesn't cause some major conservative faction to stay home. All four remaining Republicans cause someone to stay home, and the bleating of their partisans about other's principled opposition to their chosen Rino gets old.

339 posted on 01/25/2008 9:27:56 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: SierraWasp

In his Farewell Address, George Washington reminded succeeding generations of Americans that, “Honesty is always the best policy.” From the bottom of our hearts, we wish that we were not forced to make an issue of the moral weakness—the integrity deficit—of Ron Paul’s opponents. Yet no one can listen to the posturing of the other contenders in both major parties, without remarking the absence of reference to the specific language of our written Constitution. There are endless appeals to the interests or demands of particular groups or factions of the population; endless pandering to what are perceived as voting blocks; but no discussion of where the authority is supposed to reside; none of legal bases for the programs, schemes and policies being promised.

Ron Paul, alone, recognizes that the Federal Government has no power—no legal existence outside the Constitution. Yet each of the other candidates, at one time or another, has been required to swear obedience to that Constitution—to swear to uphold that Constitution. If they care so little about those solemn oaths, as to fail even to discuss Constitutional questions in seeking the most solemn office under that Constitution, how can one trust them in anything? Ultimately, the determinative issue in 2008, must be the integrity of Ron Paul versus the shameless, amoral, opportunism of his foes. Those who chose to ignore that issue, turn their backs on duty, wisdom and providence. No personal interest, no rationalization, no excuse, can possibly justify that betrayal.

http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/Paul3.htm


340 posted on 01/25/2008 9:32:21 PM PST by KDD (A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse)
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