Posted on 01/25/2008 12:59:01 PM PST by CautiouslyHopeful
With Fred Thompson out of the presidential race, who's a self-respecting conservative to go for? Could it be, maybe, perhaps, a certain Republican-libertarian from Texas?
That's one question perplexing California state Sen. Tom McClintock, possibly the second-most-famous California Republican currently in office after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
McClintock created a stir two months when he endorsed Thompsons presidential candidacy. Having run for governor, lieutenant governor and state controller, McClintock has shown that while he has not won a statewide contest, he can win GOP primaries, which conservatives tend to dominate. So heading into the Feb. 5 primary, McClintocks endorsement is seen as important in California.
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Actually, you have it just backwards... if we lose our Constitution and our freedom (all in the name of the ILLUSION of “security”), it won’t matter WHAT all the jihad johnnies do... we will no longer be a viable nation. Nor will we have anything left WORTH defending. Say what you will, shrinking fedgov MASSIVELY is the absolutely most important thing we can do as a nation... and NO ONE outside Dr. Paul is even mentioning that sad fact.
The false illusion of safety that our current administration offers is not worth sacrificing liberty to obtain. In standing up for this concept, Ron Paul is the true patriot among the presidential candidates, for a true patriot does not stand for his country, but what his country should stand for, and when his country loses its way, the patriot's duty is to bring it back to where it was.
No, I don’t have it backwards, bad domestic policies can be reversed, you lose against the Islamofacists you don’t get a second chance.
It’s the difference between fixing the foundations of your house when somebody is outside trying to set your house on fire.
Sure the house will collapse without good foundations, but the immediate threat is the fire from the outside.
IF the Mitster can say “ Oh NOW I am ProLife “,
Ron Paul can say “ Oh, NOW I think we should attack Iran “
If he does he gets my vote... maybe.
If Mr. Paul is as close to a conservative as the Republican Party can muster, you've got to appreciate the Senator's dilemma. The Senator can't bite the hand that feeds/funds him. The best he can do is to send the code.
Well said.
But can the Republican Party really endorse an anti-Iraq-War candidate?
In a word? NO.
Just remember, nation building is NOT a conservative principle. Conservatives don’t even believe that “nation building” is a good idea domestically.
William F. Buckley of National Review despises the thought. GW Bush railed against it during his 2000 campaign.
If you want to make the argument that 3,000 American citizens being brutally murdered and scorched to death painfully by a foreign invader changes everything...you could certainly make an intelligent case that the world changed on 9/11/2001.
We all hate the leftist Dems who are actively rooting for our defeat in Iraq to advance their own personal desire for power. Paul is a different animal.
Good point. Thanks.
I'll vote for that.
Huh?
We rebuilt Germany and Japan because the world was criticized for leaving Germany in a total mess the first time around!
And now that we’ve gotten al-qaeda subdued, incidentally by drawing them into Iraq as opposed to leaving them all over the globe...it would be criminal to leave Iraq now that the place is so close to stability!
Besides, it really isn’t so much an issue of “nation building” as it is freedom, (assisting to procure and keep it) which very much IS a conservative principle.
The U.S. SHOULD assist when feasible the weak in obtaining freedom from suppression, human rights abuses to say nothing of our national interests when it comes to oil and stability in the middle east.
If the U.N. even remotely did it’s job or we weren’t so dependent on oil it might be a differrent matter, but that’s just not the case.
Look, I’m more than wiling to take the time and read Dr. Paul’s POSITIONS and POLICY PAPERS.
But, please, don’t insult yourself by pointing me to his speeches and articles.
I need to see what his he intends to do, and how he intends to do it. NOT what he thinks should be done.
If you’re basing your support of him on what he thinks, you are in for a big let down.
Vote for Paul, get Hillary. The thought of Hillary as commander-in-chief should be enough to sober up even the most ideologically drunken Marine.
Don’t taze me bro.
The analogy I use when I try to explain the idea of going on the offense against the islamofascists to my liberal friends at a BBQ is this after sunset and a bunch of beer and burgers....
“John, we should be infested by mosquitoes here on the deck on this warm night, right? See that blue light, bug zapper there in the corner? All of the bugs and mosquitoes are going there to die. They’re not bothering us. Iraq is like the jihadi roach motel. The jihadis check in but they don’t check out.”
This is why the republican party is strapped with RINOs. You're doing too much feeling and not enough thinking. I'm not saying vote for Ron Paul, but Jeez, have the courage of your convictions.
Well, unfortuantely the flaw in that argument is you have but one zapper. You’d need about 50 million of them in your backyard alone!
They had a long war beween Iraq and Iran, so that’s not the answer.
Frankly, I don’t know the answer, but there’s no “containing” them, they’re already uncontained, all over Europe, Indonesia, indeed the world.
I understand only 3 percent of the population won the American Revolution.
By that standard, I don’t think I could vote for any of the candidates.
“We all hate the leftist Dems who are actively rooting for our defeat in Iraq to advance their own personal desire for power. Paul is a different animal.”
Hear! Hear! I second that. Spot on.
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