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Two Women Die After Receiving Cervical Cancer Vaccine
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Posted on 01/25/2008 10:12:14 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Human papillomavirus is an STD. Drug companies make a lot of money selling the vaccination.
To suggest teaching abstinence to stop the spread of STD’s is greatly frowned on by the liberal establishment.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:25:27 AM PST
by
GloriaJane
(http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Refuse! Then, teach your daughters about monogamous, marital sex. If they follow this advice they will never need Guardicil. The vaccine is for a sexually transmitted disease that leads to cervical cancer.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:27:10 AM PST
by
goodwithagun
(My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
To: Froufrou
As with any medication the benefits must be weighed against the risk. Smallpox vaccines were discontinued because more were dying from the vaccine than from the disease. I'm sure there are women out there who fit the category of benefits out weighing the risk. In a perfect world it would be used on the most at risk population until we have a better history. Unfortunately with patent laws as they are Merek needs to make the profit now, before the patent expires.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:27:18 AM PST
by
millerph
To: Froufrou
As with any medication the benefits must be weighed against the risk. Smallpox vaccines were discontinued because more were dying from the vaccine than from the disease. I'm sure there are women out there who fit the category of benefits out weighing the risk. In a perfect world it would be used on the most at risk population until we have a better history. Unfortunately with patent laws as they are Merek needs to make the profit now, before the patent expires.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:27:20 AM PST
by
millerph
To: mewzilla
-—way back when, kids used to have those symptoms from DPT and smallpox immunizations—
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:28:44 AM PST
by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: mewzilla
According to health officials, about 230 cases of vaccine-related fainting among girls were reported between 2005 and July 2007. So little information .... Out of how many doses administered? And how does this compare to, say, fainting rates among girls who receive flu vaccinations? Has it been established that the vaccine caused the fainting? Or could something like anxiety about the vaccine (or shots in general) be to blame?
There are few things so capable of causing stupid reactions as a statistic presented without context.
Maybe the vaccine really is bad for some folks ... but if you're gonna claim it, you've got to prove it.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:28:55 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: Froufrou
It is my understanding that the reason they are recommending it for very young girls is not because they believe it is prior to sexual exposure but because of severe side effects on more mature women. If true it is reason enough to not allow young women be required to have it until in depth and intense investigation. There seems to be a rush to make this vaccination a standard procedure, why is that? Cervical cancer is not a nice thing, but it is treatable and has a high degree of successful eradication when treated early enough. I most certainly would not allow it to be injected into my young daughter, too much chance that the promotion is motivated by $$$ rather than by protection.
To: r9etb; rellimpank
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:30:03 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: GloriaJane
To suggest teaching abstinence to stop the spread of STDs is greatly frowned on by the liberal establishment. And yet ... suppose some nice, abstinent girl gets married to a nice boy who, nevertheless, has contracted HPV. Do you suggest she not get vaccinated, because she's abstinent?
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:30:25 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: mewzilla
I have one word: Vioxx. And I have one word: tomato.
Tomatoes were at one time considered to be poisonous. At other times, they were frowned upon because they were thought to cause impure sexual desire in people who ate them.
Neither Vioxx nor Tomatoes have any damned thing to do with this vaccine, and whether it's a) safe or b) effective.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:32:32 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: GloriaJane
“Human papillomavirus is an STD. Drug companies make a lot of money selling the vaccination.”
Correct. Merck is desperate for cash.
“To suggest teaching abstinence to stop the spread of STDs is greatly frowned on by the liberal establishment.”
Right again.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:33:39 AM PST
by
milford421
(U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
To: mewzilla
—yeah—that’s the one,IIRC, my mother can’t get anymore because half a dozen or so people had strokes and a bunch of lawyers made a mint-—
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:33:48 AM PST
by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: r9etb
No, I would suggest that her new husband go to his doctor and have the small flat warts removed. Problem solved. No more human papillomavirus!
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:34:28 AM PST
by
GloriaJane
(http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
To: goodwithagun
If they follow this advice they will never need Guardicil. Never is an awfully big word. Hint: are you gonna bet your daughter's health on the hope that your future son-in-law never messed around?
Your decision, obviously: but remember that it takes two to tango. You could consider in the sense of innoculating your daughter against her future husband's past.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:35:32 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: rellimpank
yeahthats the one,IIRC, my mother cant get anymore because half a dozen or so people had strokes and a bunch of lawyers made a mint-And if the pharma company had engaged in some full dislclosure, maybe that option wouldn't have been foreclosed to the folks who still wanted to use it. People can have a nasty reaction to being used as guinea pigs.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:38:45 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: r9etb
Neither Vioxx nor Tomatoes have any damned thing to do with this vaccine, and whether it's a) safe or b) effective.I was making a point about approval not necessarily guaranteeing safety and/or efficacy.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:39:57 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: r9etb
Hopefully I will do a good enough job and she will ask her husband to have a physical, if he had previous relationships. Why should I risk my daughter’s health on questionable practices? The point is, the vaccine is part of the sex-at-any-age culture.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:40:07 AM PST
by
goodwithagun
(My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
To: mewzilla
Oh, my gosh! Thank you so much for that link.
They were trying to push this vaccine on my 12 year old daughter prior to entering 7th grade this year. I knew more about the vaccine than the nurse practitioner and promptly refused this vaccine until more information was known about possible side effects.
Death is certainly a MAJOR side affect!
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:40:17 AM PST
by
poobear
(Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
To: poobear
Whoa, there :) I DON'T know that death is a side effect. Heck, I don't think anyone knows what's going on yet. I just think that the folks who ran out and got this for their kids may be having second thoughts now. And I wouldn't blame them.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:42:16 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: Mr Ramsbotham
I hope it wasnt cervical cancer. That would mean that the shot doesnt work......
...sorry.
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posted on
01/25/2008 10:42:44 AM PST
by
Delta 21
( MKC USCG - ret)
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