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Why McCain Would Be Worse Than {GW} Bush
WND.com ^ | 01-25-08 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 01/25/2008 4:53:01 AM PST by Theodore R.

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To: Theodore R.

One of my bigger concerns for the next few years is the replacement of the Supreme Court Justices who will be retiring soon. Either of the “Rats would appoint someone left of Joe Stalin...


81 posted on 01/25/2008 7:14:05 AM PST by tubebender (Does anyone sell Tag Line insurance? Someone has stolen the last three...)
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To: SuperCapitanAmerica
My point was that when people say he votes the same as Obama/Clinton, that is completely false. And if people would take a step back and not hyperventilate, they can see that clearly by his overall voting record.

Running around heralding a composite of votes to claim conservative stature is hyperventilating and does NOT expose the reality of what was and still is. This man wants to be president, and he does not care what he has to do to become president. Does reality even phase you?

82 posted on 01/25/2008 7:28:20 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“This man wants to be president, and he does not care what he has to do to become president.”

For a second there, I thought you were talking about Mitt Romney.

Yeah, it makes sense to look at the history of his voting record. I keep reading people here saying he literally votes just like Obama/Clinton, that is patently false. You can scream all day about his one vote on the tax cuts, immigration, etc, but that doesn’t change reality and make him the same as Hillary Clinton. That is beyond hyperbole, and people here know better.


83 posted on 01/25/2008 7:37:03 AM PST by SuperCapitanAmerica
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To: kabar
Thank you for reminding me who the other Republicans were that supported McCain on his liberal legislation. Yes I know President Bush could have and should have brought out the veto pen.

From the beginning we were given the heads up from President Bush of his ‘get along with liberals’ policy he used in Texas. I think it is his view of a working democracy... let the voters -people- who elected these Senators have what they want. I do not think he wanted to wage war over the never ending assaults about campaign money, so he signed it with a ‘sigh’ and prayer the Supremes would strike it rightfully down.

84 posted on 01/25/2008 7:42:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: SuperCapitanAmerica
Yeah, it makes sense to look at the history of his voting record. I keep reading people here saying he literally votes just like Obama/Clinton, that is patently false. You can scream all day about his one vote on the tax cuts, immigration, etc, but that doesn’t change reality and make him the same as Hillary Clinton. That is beyond hyperbole, and people here know better.

Had McCain expended one tenth of his energy in dethroning liberalism and Hillary you would not be needing to wave like a white flag his voting record. Maybe if he had done to Hillary what he claims he succeeded in doing to Rummy he might have an ounce of credibility.

85 posted on 01/25/2008 7:46:10 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Had McCain expended one tenth of his energy in dethroning liberalism and Hillary you would not be needing to wave like a white flag his voting record. Maybe if he had done to Hillary what he claims he succeeded in doing to Rummy he might have an ounce of credibility.

Nobody is waving any white flags. I'm just bringing ... *gasp* ... reality back into this conversation. His voting record is there to see, and we know what his proposed policies are TODAY.

Interestingly another candidate has a lot of history out there that "conservatives" are ignoring, funny that he gets a pass but somebody who has voted consistently with his conservative ideas doesn't get that here.

I'm just looking forward to the FL primary, we're going to need a huge group of grief counselors here at the boards.

86 posted on 01/25/2008 7:51:51 AM PST by SuperCapitanAmerica
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To: samtheman
No, McCain is far worse than Buchanan or Bush. McCain not only has an obsession with amnesty and other liberal agenda - there is also adultery, possible mental problems, Keating 5, CFR, etc. He is creepy and nasty and unfit to be POTUS.
87 posted on 01/25/2008 7:52:46 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Theodore R.

Who cares what the racist and antisemitic extremist thinks.


88 posted on 01/25/2008 8:00:12 AM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: DManA

As an Arizonan I fully agree with avoiding McCain. That wasn’t the “straw man” I was referring to. I was asking if the perfectly vetted candidate had to conform to every expectation of RetiredArmy or if there was room for disappointment. In particular, I don’t think GWB took the right stance on immigration, but to bash him with mocking names and such “utter disappointment” is setting every guy up to disappoint. Exactly what would the remarks sound like if H or O get elected? Do we as Americans cooperate with the Pres. or are we a bunch of rogues?


89 posted on 01/25/2008 9:41:44 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: kabar
What some people fail to realize is that by granting legal status to the 12 to 20 million illegals already here

I keep seeing these numbers with no reference to a creditable source. I suspect that the numbers are at least double those.

Anybody out there have a reference to a valid study on just how bad it is?

90 posted on 01/25/2008 9:59:16 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Retired COB
The 2005 Bear Stearns Report estimated that there were 20 million. If you accept that 500,000 enter illegally every year, then the number today is 21 million. There are higher numbers out there, but the truth is nobody knows. This points to the fallacy of making public policy like CIR without knowing exactly how many people are involved. In 1986, the USG estimated that one million would apply for amnesty. The number turned out to be 2.7 million. If the USG estimates are that far off this time, we would drown in a sea of immigrants, illegal and legal.
91 posted on 01/25/2008 10:59:10 AM PST by kabar
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