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Military now says planes flying in area of UFO reports (Stephenville "UFO")
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Posted on 01/24/2008 8:40:09 AM PST by mnehring

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To: DCPatriot; All; Las Vegas Dave; SunkenCiv

Have come across some interesting websites in the field . . . imho . . . well worth checking out.

The first one has a number of videos, interviews and link. Including the

Robert O Dean interviews

WARNING, THERE’S PLENTY OF THE USUAL GLOBALST, UFO DECEPTION STUFF ABOUT CHRISTIANITY ETC. thereon.

http://aliencases.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=ufo&action=display&num=1205550686

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The 2nd website is quite curious but interesting as well. It’s evidently by a reasonably orthodox Christian (Salvation through Christ etc) quite in favor of KJV . . . but with a large number of twists on the more detailed meanings of various Scriptures.

AND there’s a link to a lot of free scifi movies and UFO documentaries, as well. HERE:

[Scroll down about an inch or so (in Safari)

http://hometown.aol.com/rkress024/InternetTV_UFODocumentaries.html

And this interesting site purports to have pics that seem somewhat convincing of ET’s ET BABIES etc.

http://www.alienandufopictures.com/


341 posted on 03/22/2008 10:27:48 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ActionNewsBill; AFreeBird; airborne; albertp; ALASKA; andysandmikesmom; Angelas; aragorn; ...
UFO PING LIST PING Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off the list

PERHAPS I can hotlink to some pics from this link:

HERE: http://www.alienandufopictures.com/ufo_pictures_2.html

I encourage you to see the sizable list of pics of UFO's at the above link. There are several pages worth.

A PURPORTED NAZI UFO [fuller captions with the below photos are at the link above]

PURPORTEDLY BY a paperboy on his early rounds in rural America

Found amongst a man's deceased parents effects--probably from 1960's

Photographer asserts hovered in that position an hour plus

Next to a Detroit skyscraper in 70's

New Mexico

342 posted on 03/22/2008 11:01:21 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Neat pics.


343 posted on 03/22/2008 11:28:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks. They were interesting, to me, too.

BTTT


344 posted on 03/22/2008 12:07:39 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

BTTT

UFO Photos worth review, if you haven’t.


345 posted on 03/22/2008 12:49:09 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Thanks a lot Quix. I've really been following this topic lately...since Stephenville sightings. That story seems to have cooled down quite a bit.

I definitely believe they're real. Too many sightings and same descriptions from around the globe for it not to be true.

It's a fact the world is a smaller place since the internet arrived...thus, the sightings have probably NOT increased, but rather, they are reported much faster.

The photo of the deceased parents...back in the 60s they didn't have photoshop, so...has anybody vetted that one?

346 posted on 03/22/2008 3:02:35 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

Statistics are sure hard to come by.

The excuse persistently is that the reports are too inconsistent and varied to keep statistics according to most sites.

However, those of us studying this a long time are convinced that the frequency has increased the last 12 months.

We shall see.

Thanks much.

Appreciate your msg.


347 posted on 03/22/2008 3:37:34 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; IllumiNaughtyByNature; All; Las Vegas Dave; SunkenCiv

Thanks for your msg on the other thread.

Here’s some more interesting puzzle pieces . . . depending on perspective . . .

Currently pending . . . further evidence and being derided somewhat on this ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread343676/pg1

Ultraurgent Signal about Dragonian-Andromedian spacewar

Arrival of the Andromedian Hellenic Battle StarFleet in the orbit of planet Saturn 1999. From 1999 to 2002, the observatories “Mauna Kea” Hawai, observed and counted about 115 new satellites - moons of planet Jupiter and 340 new satellites of planet Saturn

{ In reality those are accordingly 118 and 360.

Explanation of the above information is judged as non-publishable }

“NASA” as a subagent of “NSA” { NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY } forbid the american astronomers and astrophysicists to make public or academic statements of those observations, with the excuse of “NATIONAL SECURITY”. At the same time “NASA” took care of the exclusive circulation of the relevant information to Mass Media and Universities, through JPL/NASA.

But ... the astrophysicists of “Mauna Kea” Hawai and other observatories leaked to the circuit of the Astronomy and Astrophysics U.S. Universities , that the 115+340 new satellites of Jupiter and Saturn, in their photographic and spectrum analysis, show a surface of glossy titanium metal. From indepedent researchers H.R.G. informed that about 40 astronomers in US have died by mysterious unresolved death causes in 2003.

From 2000, other american observatiories radiotelescopes and neutrino telescopes leaked to the American Universities the information about the observation of some 460 spherical radiation sources of subatomic particles and neutrinos. { In reality the spherical sources are 600. Explanation of the above information is judged as non-publishable }

Conclusion: A. In the orbit of planet Saturn have assembled about 960 battle planets { 360 Visible + 600 Invisible } of a starfleet that has attack position against the 7 8 inner planets (5 known + exploded Phaethon, Hephaistos and Hellas under Dragonian Control). In the orbit of planet Jupiter have assembled about 118 visible battle planets of another starfleet which has defensive position against the starfleet of planet Saturn.

“NSA”-”NASA” through “JPL” stated to the international media that the “new visible moons of Saturn and Jupiter are physical heavenly bodies which sportaneously {...} gathered there the 3 last years { !!! }, from other places of our solar system.”

The american astronomers and astrophysicists characterized the above “NASA” statement as “False” for scientific reasons that will not be analysed in this message.
The Andromedians Hellenes of Sirius, in their departure rest assured the “Dogon-Mali” that they will return.
The Andromedians Hellenes through Sirius are once again in our solar system.

-HRG- signal fraction - ultraurgent

{ & } substituted for left and right carets above

Quix:
Of course the above sounds extra preposterous . . . though there are some purported telescope shots of those planets supposedly showing some very big craft . . . photos that are on various sites on the web. We shall see.

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And this link re a Brazilian Brigadier General . . .

However, McAfee has a warning about adware, spyware etc. downloaded from that site—so beware and consider whether you want to press the link, or not.

http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2008/03/all-ufo-secrets-must-be-disclosed.html

Wednesday, March 12, 2008
“All UFO Secrets Must Be Disclosed”

So says Jose Carlos Pereira, one of the most distinguished military officers in Brazil, who gave Brazilian UFO Magazine an exclusive interview last Saturday, March 8th, 2008

Brigadier Pereira admitted that he is a supporter of our campaign UFOs: Freedom Of Information Now, and said that “it is time to end all secrets about UFOs in Brazil and everywhere”.

Brigadier Pereira has an impressive military record. He flew all sorts of aircraft all over the world for 40 years and was a top authority in the Brazilian Air Force during the last two decades. Recently he served as General Commander of Comdabra, The Brazilian Airspace Defense Command and then President of Infraero - Brazilian Airports Infrastructure Company. He has a direct line with the president Lula da Silva. Brigadier Pereira was once considered the man who had the key to the safe the UFO secrets were kept in.

Brigadier Pereira gave me and my associates Roberto Affonso Beck, a 50-year UFO researcher and Fernando de Aragao Ramalho an exclusive, over 4-hour interview not avoiding more than 100 questions. That vast material is now being transcribed and will be entirely published in our edition 141, April. I presume that the interview will soon become another Ufological milestone, as happened with the head of Operation Saucer in the Amazon, given to me and Marco Antonio Petit by Colonel Uyrange Hollanda in 1997.

Among the many things affirmed by Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira, is:

“All secrets must be disclosed. There is no reason at all to keep them away from the citizen, in the military installations. It seems that the phenomena don’t represent any kind of threat to national security nor a danger to aviation. So, I am in favor of all files being opened - wherever they are being kept - so hat the population may learn what they contain, especially UFO researchers”.

He added that “there is a favorable environment in Brazil’s military community in that this matter should be treated openly. I will do my part, assuring my support to the UFO researchers’ movement that requests government freedom of information”.

When asked if he would accept an invitation to take part in an international effort such as the one conducted by Leslie Kean and James Fox in Washington, last November, he said he “would consider that with interest”.

Quite significantly, Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira confirmed information that we have, since the interview I did with Colonel Uyrange Hollanda, that I wasn’t able to verify 100% with any other source.

Brigadier Pereira confirmed that, indeed, over 2,000 pages of documents resulted from Operation Saucer, in the Amazon, as well as over 500 photos of the phenomena and 16 hours of Super-8mm and Super-16mm film. And he said that all this material is in Brasilia. This is very significant.

I will keep you posted of new developments. The entire interview will be translated into English soon.

More info at the link above.

However, McAfee has a warning about adware, spyware etc. downloaded from that site—so beware and consider whether you want to press the link, or not.

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Admiral Fallon supposedly linked to UFO disclosure stuff per this link . . . referred from the above link:

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6642

US Navy’s Admiral Fallon Linked To UFO/ET Disclosure

Diary Entry by Ed Komarek

There may be more to Admiral Fallon’s resignation than meets the eye if UFO investigators are correct. The leaking of a recent secret UFO UN meeting to the public has been now tied to Admiral Fallon. Also a top Brazilan Air Force general has publicly come out in favor of UFO disclosure.

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“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Admiral Roscoe Henry Hillenkoetter (May 8, 1897 - June 18, 1982) First Director of the CIA, in a letter to Congress-1960.
There have been many recent developments in the area of UFO/ET disclosure. One of several sources that leaked information to the public on a secret UN UFO meeting has shown impressive credentials to UFO/ET investigators. When the information was first leaked one researcher Robert Morningstar was only allowed to state that this individual worked under an admiral at the Pentagon. While the furor over the UN meeting has been going on in America, France and around the world Brazilian Air Force generals are now pushing UFO disclosure openly in Brazil according to UFO investigator and UFO Magazine editor A. J. Gevaerd.

These are exciting times to be in the UFO/ET field. The best place for the public and the military to monitor rapid developments having to do with the UN meeting is on the Open Minds Discussion Board. Many uninformed critics from around the world of this UFO meeting have begun to fall upon their own swords and there is no way that I can recount in this article all the twists and turns taking place right under the noses of the brainwashed mainstream media. The thread at OM relating to the UN meeting follows:
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=futuretalk&action=display&thread=1203011953

Let me begin with the apparent U.S. Navy push for UFO/ET disclosure and I will follow with the Brazilian public initiative. Robert Morningstar said: “I can only speak for myself (specifically regarding the first meeting) and I reaffirm that I have met 3 times with a distinguished US Military officer, pilot and diplomat, to discuss this topic and that the credentials presented to me are legitimate.”

“I can now tell you, and this should be of some consideration, that as I stated this was a US Navy initiative. From the first, my source made it clear to me that Admiral Fallon was his mentor and has given tact approval behind the scenes to advance the cause of UFO disclosure. In my view, a smear campaign against him conducted (by his opponents) in Esquire Magazine can be viewed as desperate “damage control” on the part of the “US UFO ‘Secret’-ariat”. This honorable officer has now resigned.”

In another message Robert has the following to say; “Our source found the UN members (and their military reps in Europe) to be entrenched in denial, resistant and recalcitrant against to the new US proposal.”

“Perhaps, the real purpose behind the leaking of the information on the part of my government (and that is precisely what our account is, a “US Government” leak) may be designed/intended to bring strong public pressure to bear on those United Nations representatives (and our own) who have demonstrated themselves “half willing” or “unwilling” to proceed with the initiation of a process that the United States requests.”

It appears to me that the US wants us to FORCE the UN to rethink their policy and to cooperate with the US plan, beginning with a proposed timetable for UFO Disclosure by 2013.” Robert Morningstar is co-editor of UFO Digest. http://www.ufodigest.com/

In regards to the Brazilian initiative I here quote from a report by A.J. Gevaerd. ““All UFO secrets must be disclosed.” So says Brazilian Air Force Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira, one of the most distinguished military officers in Brazil, who gave Brazilian UFO Magazine an exclusive interview last Saturday, March 8th 2008.”

“Brigadier Pereira admitted that he is a supporter of our campaign UFOs: Freedom of Information Now, and said that “it is time to end all secrets about UFOs in Brazil and everywhere.””

“Brigadier Pereira has an impressive military record. He flew all sorts of aircraft all over the world for 40 years and was a top authority in the Brazilian Air Force during the last two decades. Recently he served as General Commander of Comdabra, The Brazilian Airspace Defense Command and then President of Infraero – Brazilian Airports Infrastructure Company. He has a direct line with the president Lula da Silva. Brigadier Pereira was once considered the man who had the key to the safe the UFO secrets were kept in.”

Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira states; “All secrets must be disclosed. There is no reason at all to keep them away from the citizen, in the military installations. It seems that the phenomena don’t represent any kind of threat to national security nor a danger to aviation. – So that the population may learn what they contain, especially UFO researchers. There is a favorable environment in Brazil’s military community in that this matter would be treated openly. I will do my part, assuring my support to the UFO researchers’ movement that requests government freedom of information.”

Okay you US Navy guys maybe its time for the US military to come out of the closet and bring Admiral Fallon up to the plate to openly support UFO disclosure as have the Brazilian military brass. Thanks for letting us know you are watching. J The following was related as confirmation of this by Robert Morningstar.

“A couple of weeks ago, I asked our contact to try to find a way to give us some indication of official recognition, a sign of tact approval from the Pentagon. It seems to have come in a subtle way yesterday, when one of my research associates found a reference to “Is the U.S Navy Pushing for UFO Disclosure” listed on the JCS News website (Joint Chiefs of Staff News). When we went to the page, the article was not immediately obvious.”

“So, I typed in “U.S. Navy Pushing for UFO Disclosure” in their search engine. Another JCS News page came up with a direct link to their reposting of Ed Komarek’s article of the same name on JCS News. This article quote some of my comments on the nature of the problem faced by the JCS in reversing 60 years of UFO denial in the short time left to do so. I am very pleased by this sign of support from “on high.”

Ed Komarek Jr. was born into a family of early ecologists and learned ecology and the natural sciences as a apprentice. He holds no formal degrees as did neither Herb Stoddard or his father Ed Komarek Sr. (Ed Komarek Sr. did later in life did get a honorary doctorate for his lifetime of work from Florida State University.) Herb Stoddard and close friend Aldo Leopold are recognized as the fathers of Ecology. Herb Stoddard was Ed’s father’s mentor, who later became know internationally as the father of Fire Ecology and who waged a lifetime info-war against Smokey The Bear anti-fire propagandists. Herb was like a grandfather to young Ed. In his early twenties Ed Komarek Jr. dropped out of college where he was majoring in wildlife management to strike out on his own into what was later to be called exopolitics, long before the name exopoltics was coined by Alfred Webre, JD. Never in his wildest dreams did young Ed expect that latter in life that the fields of ecology and exopolitics would converge into even another field of advanced study becoming known as astro-ecology.

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Interviews with various Stephenville residents available at this link:

http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2008/01/witness-catches-stephenville-ufo-on.html

Good set of interviews with a diversity of candid responses. Quite believable.

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348 posted on 03/22/2008 6:13:53 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

The Detroit pic - interesting no one in the photo was looking at the UFO. Surely, the photographer would have exclaimed and hollered, “look, there!” during the time it took to get his camera out and focused.


349 posted on 03/22/2008 8:56:26 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: mtbopfuyn

I don’t know.

Many such photos—the UFO is not seen when the photo is taken.

Others, many folks are so startled and fixated on the UFO they seem to mysteriously lose all sense. Often cameras in their hands or on the car seat beside them are not even thought of.

Some folks do shout and point. But they are not necessarily in the majority. I don’t know what the real stats are on such.

Could the photo be a hoax. Certainly—in this day and age. Didn’t strike me as one, though.

But that issue will be moot far too soon when they start showing up in droves in broad daylight all over the place—especially well populated cities.


350 posted on 03/22/2008 9:03:14 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Just checked the pic again.

Actually, no one in the pic happened to be looking even anywhere near the direction of the UFO.

Very often folks are worried they will miss something dramatic if they stop and alert others. Many times, it just does not occur to them to do so.


351 posted on 03/22/2008 9:05:16 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mtbopfuyn; SunkenCiv

SunkenCiv—your item is 3rd or 4th down, I think.

This site invites those with implants to get them excised free etc.

http://www.alienscalpel.com/hardevidence.htm

This is a youtube about his work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9H2xVe5rQ

This link is to the ATS thread about a fellow who took his own out of his thigh and finds it’s metal properties rather extraordinary . . . he has a lot of knowledge about metals himself:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread338329/pg1

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UFO OVER A VOLCANO

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread343761/pg1

SOURCE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAJmuWvF7U4

The man is apparently videotaping the volcanic eruption. The object appears in the top, left of center, descending into the cloud at approximately a 45 degree angle, toward the left. Two lights appear in the cloud, moving in the same direction as the object entered.

The object reappears coming out of the cloud moving right, toward the volcano. One man calls out, it seems he’s calling to friends, perhaps. Another man speaks in another language, I don’t know what he says.

The object moves to above the volcano, and stops momentarily before changing direction 90 degrees and moving into another cloud along the right side of the volcano. The thing I find interesting is that the object stops momentarily, but the clouds do not. That could mean the object was added later, I suppose.

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One for you SunkenCiv:

Proof of multidimensional molecules that know you’re watching—down the rabbit hole

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread343649/pg1

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread329188/pg1

The Smoking (Anti-Aircraft) Guns (of Los Angeles, 1942)

Hello fellow ATS members, thanks for stopping by this thread.
I assure you that your time here will not be wasted.

First and foremost, I have a {THEORY} that the ‘Battle of Los Angeles’, once properly investigated, will provide everyone with at least ONE case of a truly Unidentified Flying Object, where the most likely explanation that fits the given evidence is that it was a vessel from somewhere outside of Earth.

To prove this theory, I’ll first be introducing evidence supporting the reality of the event. This will consist of my (as of now incomplete) report on the event, formatted in the usual style of my Compilation posts, so that everyone can find everything I’ve found so far.

I will then ask for ATS members assistance in several ways:
1) Following up the spots in the report where the text [NEED DATA] occurs. The items of evidence (and sources) I have not yet been able to acquire will need finding. I’m going to keep on this case until I have the data for all of these blanks. It is my hope that some of you will join me in the pursuit of this data.

2) Debunk the crap out of all of it please. That’s right, I’m asking for all of the skeptics here to step up and weigh in on the evidence, once posted, in this thread. I think that every possible explanation needs to be considered, and there is no better team of individuals fit to analyze this data that the collective group of skeptics here at ATS. Perhaps one of us will come up with some rational earthly explanation for this event, to date I haven’t been able to do so on my own, and I’d like help from the pros!

3) There are several questions that have never been properly answered pertaining to the details of this event, and I believe that ATS members can work out the values for these variables. These questions will no doubt surface on their own throughout the thread, but here are a few to start:

A) How big is the UFO?
I believe that we can find out, using math, if we can get values for other variables...
B) Where is the Original LA Times Picture taken?
I believe that we can find out, using math and maps, if we can get values for other variables...
C) What are the specs on the AA guns? The Lights? etc.?
I believe that we can find out, by researching, and through teamwork.

I think you can see where this is going.
To date (January 24th, 2008) this event has not been explained, and in fact, I’ve yet to even see a place where ALL of the data is actually assembled for a thorough investigation. There have been many attempts at analysis by individuals, each only going so far.

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352 posted on 03/22/2008 11:01:36 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mtbopfuyn; All

Astronaut Gordon Cooper video discussing his UFO experiences

SOURCE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVL3I2Yv9FA

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread343736/pg1


353 posted on 03/23/2008 2:02:54 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: mtbopfuyn; ActionNewsBill; AFreeBird; airborne; albertp; ALASKA; andysandmikesmom; Angelas; ...

UFO PING LIST PING.

I first ran across this ilk of thing beyond the net 2 years ago at the Aztec UFO conference in a private conversation with a very well known researcher. I posted that hereon. A FREEPER wrote the researcher who denied ever saying anything of the kind.

At the time, the researcher was extremely terse, wary, would only say one sentence in the direction of this sort of thing. Acted like it was super dangerous to say anything further. None of my professional interview skills would budge the researcher beyond that one cryptic, generic sentence that something extremely dreadful that we did !!!!NOT want!!!! to know about was on the horizon in 2012.

This issue keeps coming up . . . Hard to figure out how to construe this puzzle piece.

Some of the scientists speaking months ago on C2C were interesting . . . and easily convincing if one bought into their perspective at all . . . and now this . . .

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread343809/pg1

Extinction Level Event? Pointers To The Approaching Catastrophe!

Check this out:

A Norwegian politician writes:

I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012. The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.

The public will not know what happens till the very end, because the government does not want to create mass panic. Everything will happen quietly and the government will just disappear. If such an event comes, they have made sure that five years or more underground is going to be what they need to avoid this. When they know it’s safe to surface, they will rebuild again. We were just told that we have to leave before 2012 and that there is something in space that is going to cause much destruction.

(Name and proof of identity supplied)

SOURCE:

http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

From immediate further correspondence, and in response to our specific questions, we can add the following clarifications in our source’s own words:
I have been to several underground bases [number given]. We used the railcars to get around. Only a few special people were selected to be shown around. Those that run with the elite know of this.

I have evidence of my claims. I trust my sources 100%, but they are afraid to tell what they know. People are afraid for their lives and that is how it is. I just also want the public to know what the hell is going on. I am not afraid of death or any other thing.

All the elite politicians in Norway know of this. They also know that if they reveal anything they will be removed from office and will be denied access to the different underground bases when the time is up.

The NOAH 12 railcars are transport railcars between the different bases underground. They have a support system of these all around from one base to another. They are mainly used by the military and they control all of them. There are orange triangle symbols in each base and the check-ins are a kind of energy field that everyone has to go through.

The future for my children is all I think of - and that for all the other children growing up in the new world. We have to make a difference for them so that they grow up knowing what their parents did for them, such as giving this information to people like yourselves.

In 2009 the government of FRP will come into power and Siv Jensen will be elected Prime Minister. This is already known. It’s important to understand that. The elections are all fake and the same persons and power elite get elected each time in turn. Look up the political history of Norway, and the people that run the country now.

Please share this information with the rest of the internet. When the time comes people will survive because of the information they have learned from the different sites on the net.

I will not get anything but trouble from posting this, and I have no need to mislead anyone. I do this only to expose what is to happen in my country and that maybe some people will survive what is to come.

Kind regards

[Name supplied]

_____________________________

After posting the above, we presented more questions to our source, who replied with the intriguing information which follows.

The paragraphs indented and marked with an asterisk (*) constitute further supplementary information received after we had asked a number of additional clarifying questions.

When I was in the military I was in the [name of service given]. At one point we were given a task to get something out of a base and deliver it to another base.

We were told: “DO NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS. JUST DO YOUR JOB.” Later, when we landed outside the base, we were taken by trucks to outside the base where there were large doors heavily guarded by other military personnel.

Or it seemed like they were military, but they had different suits on them: orange and black suits with the orange suits having a golden triangle on them and the black suits having a green triangle.

* As far as I can remember the triangle went downwards, like a pyramid but facing down and had some weird kind of sign it it. To me it looked like the letter ‘E’, but the lines were not connected in the ‘E’ like we write the letter ‘E’. It was shaped like the ‘E’ and in the middle the letter ‘E’ was pointing inwards... not as in any language I can read or understand, and certainly not in Norwegian.

* The signs were as far as I can remember not on the arms because I saw them clearly... they were at the left side of the black suit just over the chest area and on the caps they had on. The signs were not that big - just as a regular sized patch is, but clear enough to see them.

We went through the large doors. I was thinking what the hell is this, and I felt a bit scared at first. It was like something out of a science fiction movie. This was the first time I was in such a base.

We then came to a 500 meter long tunnel and there were more of these military personnel waiting with guns and transport for us. We were divided up in groups. Some went another way, and I and my group were asked to come with the black suited guards so they could take us to another location. When we came to the end we were asked to put on some masks “for our own protection”.

I was thinking for our own protection... aren’t we already protected by being inside this huge underground complex and by guards with weapons?

We were then asked to step inside a railcar... and this is what I know of the railcars. They are run by some kind of blue crystal energy, I think, or at least that is how it appeared. Then we sat in the cars and I asked one of the guards “What is this?” He replied, “You don’t need to know this, sir.”

* At the front where the operator sits there was a box with a window just besides him, and just when before powering up you could see the large purple-blue crystals emitting a purple-bluish light... not blinding you but quite beautiful to watch indeed. I have never ever seen such energy light or crystals anywhere. I was thinking that must be the power source.

* Later on in the base I saw that some people were working on these purple-blue crystals. They were larger than the ones I saw in the railcar - ca. one meter in length and they were lined up one after the other. They were taking some light through them. They were in fact purple-blue and when the light went inside they turned more blue and had a stronger color - the people had white masks on and goggles standing away from them when the light was going inside the crystals. I was about 20 meters from them and we were quickly rushed along when they said “Move on now.”

* I also think that the energy fields that we went through before entering the check-in were powered by these crystals, because it was the same kind of light - or so it seemed to me. If I remember more I will let you know.

I could see that there was a tube-like system and the other railcars were just going so fast you just saw a light going by. I think this was a vacuum tube system where there is no drag.

* The railcars were just like the tube itself but inside. The tube was a bit larger. The main car or transport shuttle was I think ca. 12 meters in length and had a pointed shape in front and back and had seating for 10 people with the operator. You could drive them both ways and it was not necessary to turn it around. It was sealed from the side after you go inside and was quite okay... but the speed was too much, and I got sick after the ride.

* There was also some room for some cargo that you could take with you, but not much. There were a lot of these railcars around, as it seemed, and they just went passing by just like a light passes by in a flash. But you don’t get to see the other rails either, because it’s so fast that you forget to look and rather concentrate on your stomach when inside one of these.

Later on, after I went into politics, I found out what was inside of the rest of the base and what the bases are for, which I have already told you. I know that when this railcar moved - and it moved fast - I had never seen anything like this before. Later when we arrived at the end station I was feeling sick, and the other people that were there also felt the same way. One of the guards said it happens the first time to everyone.

When we came outside we were given goggles and asked to go through a security check. This is where it all gets weird.

There were guards with weapons all over the place... and remember I told you about the energy fields that one has to go through. I was thinking I should not be here at this place, and I was a little scared.

Then we got through this energy field and came to another room. I saw that there was a screen on the side of the wall that said HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.

After I saw this I was thinking: Are there ‘NOT HUMANS’ too ??

* At the energy field check-in there was a screen, which I mentioned before. There was a weird language on the screen. I have never seen this before. Underneath it stood letters that were like the ‘E’ I told you about - but the only thing I could read was HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.

[ Project Camelot note: we are seeking further clarification on this ]

The guards stopped us and told us to change clothes inside another room and come with them. When we had done so they said that it was time to go further down. Again, I was thinking how large is this place? We just came out of a rail system that runs for miles and miles... and then there is more?

We were then taken to a lift system, with seats, that was going to take us down... or, this is what I thought it was going to do. But it went sideways for about three minutes. In this place, time was not known to me because we had no way of telling what the time was. They had taken everything away from us at the check-ins.

* At the lift I remember I saw a letter that look like a headphone - like the hearing phones you have on your head when listening to music. It was just bent like that if you see it from the front side and pointing down.

All I can say is that when our job was done I was thinking that the world is not as it seems to be, and that many things are hidden from the public. It makes me sad and scared.

Later, when I got into politics, I began digging into this because I needed more answers. What I found out was that these bases were Arks for the government and some of the people and military to survive inside. There was a threat from outside that was going to be in the year 2012 and that the human species had to survive.

The ‘Planet X’ I learned about is from all what I have seen till now. The government knows this and are keeping it from the public. They have been tracking this object for a long time now and were given the first warnings from the USA.

I know that 18 bases exist in Norway. I don’t know what many of the dangers are because I am not a scientist. But what I know is that before 2012 the different governments are going to leave for the bases that they have built for the last 40 or 50 years.

If this object goes by, there will be a lot of problems on the surface of the Earth. That is all I know. This is why they go underground.

If such an event comes, they have made sure that five years or more underground is going to be what they need to avoid this. When they know it’s safe to surface, they will rebuild again. We were just told that we have to leave before 2012 and that there is something in space that is going to cause much destruction.

* I don’t know if there is a threat from the sun itself. I am not so much into the science of things. I am just telling what I have seen and nothing more.

I can say that I have already said too much, but the people are now warned about this...

I have no need to make this up or create mass panic. I just want to tell the public what is to come, and I have done what I can from my side.

There are things in this world that are not known to the public. And there is one thing I can say about all this:

Be ready and have faith in yourself. There is no help in trusting the governments. Trust only yourself.

Kind regards

[Name supplied]

According to the Project Camelot web site, the person who sent this message to them did so under his own name, which they claim to have checked. Also enclosed were a number of photographs with the Prime Minister of Norway and (separately) with Benazir Bhutto. They are certain of his bona fides, but understandably cannot reveal his real name or publish any photos without consent.

Let’s corroborate what he says…..

NASA’s Warning

NASA has recently published report of an impending disaster due to the sun’s magnetic anomalies that will probably result in destruction of satellite communications, GPS, Air Traffic, and Power Grids and so on. They believe that Solar Cycle 24 will be big and intense, peaking in 2011 or 2012.

MP3 file of half hour conversation is here:

http://projectcamelot.org/leo_zagami_cellphone_long.mp3


354 posted on 03/23/2008 4:01:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Link re So Pole monitoring telescope:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1958871/posts?page=349

South Pole Telescope (SPT) — America’s New Planet X Tracker

Yowusa.com, 26-April-2006
Jacco van der Worp
Foreword by Marshall Masters

America is now spending huge sums to deploy the massive The South Pole Telescope (SPT) in Antarctica. The final installation will be the size of a mini-mall and will require a massive C-130 airlift effort to transport pre-assembled modules and a large staff to the most desolate, inhospitable and inaccessible region of the world. Why? Because Planet X / Nibiru was first sighted in 1983 and this discovery spurred the USA to build the SPT — humanity’s new Planet X tracker.

Amongst independent researchers like us at YOWUSA.COM and the equally committed researchers with whom we share data, the 1983 IRAS observation of Planet X / Nibiru has always been a hot topic. On a private level, we often discuss how the NASA’s IRAS spacecraft first captured infrared images of it back in 1983 with the same lament. Given the lack of corroboration, how can you publish a story that can easily be shot down as a rumor? That was then.

Now we have the corroboration we’ve lacked for years, The South Pole Telescope (SPT). Far more powerful capable and survivable than the 1983 IRAS spacecraft and Hubble Space Telescope put together, this manned observatory will soon begin tracking Planet X / Nibiru from the pristine skies of Antarctica.

Why is America spending a massive fortune to transport this massive facility with massive C-130 airlift to the most desolate, inhospitable and inaccessible region of the world to track this massive inbound? Because this is where astronomers will find their ultimate Kodak moment and this is good news. Their resulting multi-spectrum observations will translate into life-saving data.

PDF file available re such things at:

http://yowusa.com/


355 posted on 03/23/2008 4:16:33 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

SOURCE:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/whats_new.html

This morning we had a significant phone conversation with Leo Zagami. We recorded it, with his consent, and will publish it as soon as possible.

Leo has had several long conversations with our Norwegian Politician contact, who confirmed that his family had been threatened - the reason he had been unable to meet us in Oslo as planned. He also told Leo that we at Project Camelot were regarded as ‘dangerous’ (which we were happy to hear!) - and were under careful surveillance. The Norwegian Politician also confirmed that while the underground bases and the 2012 evacuation plans were very real, he now considered he been disinformed about Planet X being the cause - as we had suspected. This is all both complex and important, and we will report on this fully as soon as we can.

I think at the very least . . . such dramas are interesting stories.

I personally have long believed that the truth will turn out to be . . . when the dust settles after Armageddon . . . that the time between now and then

will have turned out to have been

MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, !!!!MUCH!!!! STRANGER in off the wall sorts of ways

than all the other strangeness in all of the world’s history combined.

We shall see.


356 posted on 03/23/2008 4:24:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; SunkenCiv
FWIW, Sunken . . .

PURPORTED South Pole Telescope site

The telescope?, I guess.

Another telescope & area shot.

Telescope diagram

357 posted on 03/23/2008 5:05:53 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope
358 posted on 03/23/2008 5:19:12 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Quix

The following page is . . . interesting enough . . . that I’m wary of posting all of it hereon.

So, I’ll just post the link . . .

purportedly about a Christian . . . involved in highly classified stuff and supposedly later arrested for his part in THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT.

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/backgrounders/234bg.html


359 posted on 03/23/2008 5:20:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Thanks. Interesting.

Appreciate the other perspective.

Now what reality is . . . I don’t think even Alice knows. And certainly not the Red Queen.


360 posted on 03/23/2008 5:22:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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