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Thanks for your msg on the other thread.

Here’s some more interesting puzzle pieces . . . depending on perspective . . .

Currently pending . . . further evidence and being derided somewhat on this ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread343676/pg1

Ultraurgent Signal about Dragonian-Andromedian spacewar

Arrival of the Andromedian Hellenic Battle StarFleet in the orbit of planet Saturn 1999. From 1999 to 2002, the observatories “Mauna Kea” Hawai, observed and counted about 115 new satellites - moons of planet Jupiter and 340 new satellites of planet Saturn

{ In reality those are accordingly 118 and 360.

Explanation of the above information is judged as non-publishable }

“NASA” as a subagent of “NSA” { NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY } forbid the american astronomers and astrophysicists to make public or academic statements of those observations, with the excuse of “NATIONAL SECURITY”. At the same time “NASA” took care of the exclusive circulation of the relevant information to Mass Media and Universities, through JPL/NASA.

But ... the astrophysicists of “Mauna Kea” Hawai and other observatories leaked to the circuit of the Astronomy and Astrophysics U.S. Universities , that the 115+340 new satellites of Jupiter and Saturn, in their photographic and spectrum analysis, show a surface of glossy titanium metal. From indepedent researchers H.R.G. informed that about 40 astronomers in US have died by mysterious unresolved death causes in 2003.

From 2000, other american observatiories radiotelescopes and neutrino telescopes leaked to the American Universities the information about the observation of some 460 spherical radiation sources of subatomic particles and neutrinos. { In reality the spherical sources are 600. Explanation of the above information is judged as non-publishable }

Conclusion: A. In the orbit of planet Saturn have assembled about 960 battle planets { 360 Visible + 600 Invisible } of a starfleet that has attack position against the 7 8 inner planets (5 known + exploded Phaethon, Hephaistos and Hellas under Dragonian Control). In the orbit of planet Jupiter have assembled about 118 visible battle planets of another starfleet which has defensive position against the starfleet of planet Saturn.

“NSA”-”NASA” through “JPL” stated to the international media that the “new visible moons of Saturn and Jupiter are physical heavenly bodies which sportaneously {...} gathered there the 3 last years { !!! }, from other places of our solar system.”

The american astronomers and astrophysicists characterized the above “NASA” statement as “False” for scientific reasons that will not be analysed in this message.
The Andromedians Hellenes of Sirius, in their departure rest assured the “Dogon-Mali” that they will return.
The Andromedians Hellenes through Sirius are once again in our solar system.

-HRG- signal fraction - ultraurgent

{ & } substituted for left and right carets above

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Of course the above sounds extra preposterous . . . though there are some purported telescope shots of those planets supposedly showing some very big craft . . . photos that are on various sites on the web. We shall see.

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And this link re a Brazilian Brigadier General . . .

However, McAfee has a warning about adware, spyware etc. downloaded from that site—so beware and consider whether you want to press the link, or not.

http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2008/03/all-ufo-secrets-must-be-disclosed.html

Wednesday, March 12, 2008
“All UFO Secrets Must Be Disclosed”

So says Jose Carlos Pereira, one of the most distinguished military officers in Brazil, who gave Brazilian UFO Magazine an exclusive interview last Saturday, March 8th, 2008

Brigadier Pereira admitted that he is a supporter of our campaign UFOs: Freedom Of Information Now, and said that “it is time to end all secrets about UFOs in Brazil and everywhere”.

Brigadier Pereira has an impressive military record. He flew all sorts of aircraft all over the world for 40 years and was a top authority in the Brazilian Air Force during the last two decades. Recently he served as General Commander of Comdabra, The Brazilian Airspace Defense Command and then President of Infraero - Brazilian Airports Infrastructure Company. He has a direct line with the president Lula da Silva. Brigadier Pereira was once considered the man who had the key to the safe the UFO secrets were kept in.

Brigadier Pereira gave me and my associates Roberto Affonso Beck, a 50-year UFO researcher and Fernando de Aragao Ramalho an exclusive, over 4-hour interview not avoiding more than 100 questions. That vast material is now being transcribed and will be entirely published in our edition 141, April. I presume that the interview will soon become another Ufological milestone, as happened with the head of Operation Saucer in the Amazon, given to me and Marco Antonio Petit by Colonel Uyrange Hollanda in 1997.

Among the many things affirmed by Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira, is:

“All secrets must be disclosed. There is no reason at all to keep them away from the citizen, in the military installations. It seems that the phenomena don’t represent any kind of threat to national security nor a danger to aviation. So, I am in favor of all files being opened - wherever they are being kept - so hat the population may learn what they contain, especially UFO researchers”.

He added that “there is a favorable environment in Brazil’s military community in that this matter should be treated openly. I will do my part, assuring my support to the UFO researchers’ movement that requests government freedom of information”.

When asked if he would accept an invitation to take part in an international effort such as the one conducted by Leslie Kean and James Fox in Washington, last November, he said he “would consider that with interest”.

Quite significantly, Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira confirmed information that we have, since the interview I did with Colonel Uyrange Hollanda, that I wasn’t able to verify 100% with any other source.

Brigadier Pereira confirmed that, indeed, over 2,000 pages of documents resulted from Operation Saucer, in the Amazon, as well as over 500 photos of the phenomena and 16 hours of Super-8mm and Super-16mm film. And he said that all this material is in Brasilia. This is very significant.

I will keep you posted of new developments. The entire interview will be translated into English soon.

More info at the link above.

However, McAfee has a warning about adware, spyware etc. downloaded from that site—so beware and consider whether you want to press the link, or not.

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Admiral Fallon supposedly linked to UFO disclosure stuff per this link . . . referred from the above link:

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6642

US Navy’s Admiral Fallon Linked To UFO/ET Disclosure

Diary Entry by Ed Komarek

There may be more to Admiral Fallon’s resignation than meets the eye if UFO investigators are correct. The leaking of a recent secret UFO UN meeting to the public has been now tied to Admiral Fallon. Also a top Brazilan Air Force general has publicly come out in favor of UFO disclosure.

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“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Admiral Roscoe Henry Hillenkoetter (May 8, 1897 - June 18, 1982) First Director of the CIA, in a letter to Congress-1960.
There have been many recent developments in the area of UFO/ET disclosure. One of several sources that leaked information to the public on a secret UN UFO meeting has shown impressive credentials to UFO/ET investigators. When the information was first leaked one researcher Robert Morningstar was only allowed to state that this individual worked under an admiral at the Pentagon. While the furor over the UN meeting has been going on in America, France and around the world Brazilian Air Force generals are now pushing UFO disclosure openly in Brazil according to UFO investigator and UFO Magazine editor A. J. Gevaerd.

These are exciting times to be in the UFO/ET field. The best place for the public and the military to monitor rapid developments having to do with the UN meeting is on the Open Minds Discussion Board. Many uninformed critics from around the world of this UFO meeting have begun to fall upon their own swords and there is no way that I can recount in this article all the twists and turns taking place right under the noses of the brainwashed mainstream media. The thread at OM relating to the UN meeting follows:
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=futuretalk&action=display&thread=1203011953

Let me begin with the apparent U.S. Navy push for UFO/ET disclosure and I will follow with the Brazilian public initiative. Robert Morningstar said: “I can only speak for myself (specifically regarding the first meeting) and I reaffirm that I have met 3 times with a distinguished US Military officer, pilot and diplomat, to discuss this topic and that the credentials presented to me are legitimate.”

“I can now tell you, and this should be of some consideration, that as I stated this was a US Navy initiative. From the first, my source made it clear to me that Admiral Fallon was his mentor and has given tact approval behind the scenes to advance the cause of UFO disclosure. In my view, a smear campaign against him conducted (by his opponents) in Esquire Magazine can be viewed as desperate “damage control” on the part of the “US UFO ‘Secret’-ariat”. This honorable officer has now resigned.”

In another message Robert has the following to say; “Our source found the UN members (and their military reps in Europe) to be entrenched in denial, resistant and recalcitrant against to the new US proposal.”

“Perhaps, the real purpose behind the leaking of the information on the part of my government (and that is precisely what our account is, a “US Government” leak) may be designed/intended to bring strong public pressure to bear on those United Nations representatives (and our own) who have demonstrated themselves “half willing” or “unwilling” to proceed with the initiation of a process that the United States requests.”

It appears to me that the US wants us to FORCE the UN to rethink their policy and to cooperate with the US plan, beginning with a proposed timetable for UFO Disclosure by 2013.” Robert Morningstar is co-editor of UFO Digest. http://www.ufodigest.com/

In regards to the Brazilian initiative I here quote from a report by A.J. Gevaerd. ““All UFO secrets must be disclosed.” So says Brazilian Air Force Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira, one of the most distinguished military officers in Brazil, who gave Brazilian UFO Magazine an exclusive interview last Saturday, March 8th 2008.”

“Brigadier Pereira admitted that he is a supporter of our campaign UFOs: Freedom of Information Now, and said that “it is time to end all secrets about UFOs in Brazil and everywhere.””

“Brigadier Pereira has an impressive military record. He flew all sorts of aircraft all over the world for 40 years and was a top authority in the Brazilian Air Force during the last two decades. Recently he served as General Commander of Comdabra, The Brazilian Airspace Defense Command and then President of Infraero – Brazilian Airports Infrastructure Company. He has a direct line with the president Lula da Silva. Brigadier Pereira was once considered the man who had the key to the safe the UFO secrets were kept in.”

Brigadier Jose Carlos Pereira states; “All secrets must be disclosed. There is no reason at all to keep them away from the citizen, in the military installations. It seems that the phenomena don’t represent any kind of threat to national security nor a danger to aviation. – So that the population may learn what they contain, especially UFO researchers. There is a favorable environment in Brazil’s military community in that this matter would be treated openly. I will do my part, assuring my support to the UFO researchers’ movement that requests government freedom of information.”

Okay you US Navy guys maybe its time for the US military to come out of the closet and bring Admiral Fallon up to the plate to openly support UFO disclosure as have the Brazilian military brass. Thanks for letting us know you are watching. J The following was related as confirmation of this by Robert Morningstar.

“A couple of weeks ago, I asked our contact to try to find a way to give us some indication of official recognition, a sign of tact approval from the Pentagon. It seems to have come in a subtle way yesterday, when one of my research associates found a reference to “Is the U.S Navy Pushing for UFO Disclosure” listed on the JCS News website (Joint Chiefs of Staff News). When we went to the page, the article was not immediately obvious.”

“So, I typed in “U.S. Navy Pushing for UFO Disclosure” in their search engine. Another JCS News page came up with a direct link to their reposting of Ed Komarek’s article of the same name on JCS News. This article quote some of my comments on the nature of the problem faced by the JCS in reversing 60 years of UFO denial in the short time left to do so. I am very pleased by this sign of support from “on high.”

Ed Komarek Jr. was born into a family of early ecologists and learned ecology and the natural sciences as a apprentice. He holds no formal degrees as did neither Herb Stoddard or his father Ed Komarek Sr. (Ed Komarek Sr. did later in life did get a honorary doctorate for his lifetime of work from Florida State University.) Herb Stoddard and close friend Aldo Leopold are recognized as the fathers of Ecology. Herb Stoddard was Ed’s father’s mentor, who later became know internationally as the father of Fire Ecology and who waged a lifetime info-war against Smokey The Bear anti-fire propagandists. Herb was like a grandfather to young Ed. In his early twenties Ed Komarek Jr. dropped out of college where he was majoring in wildlife management to strike out on his own into what was later to be called exopolitics, long before the name exopoltics was coined by Alfred Webre, JD. Never in his wildest dreams did young Ed expect that latter in life that the fields of ecology and exopolitics would converge into even another field of advanced study becoming known as astro-ecology.

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Interviews with various Stephenville residents available at this link:

http://frankwarren.blogspot.com/2008/01/witness-catches-stephenville-ufo-on.html

Good set of interviews with a diversity of candid responses. Quite believable.

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