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Expatriate Democrats can cast ballots on the Internet
AP via Houston Chronicle ^ | Jan. 21, 2008, 8:33AM | JESSICA BERNSTEIN-WAX

Posted on 01/23/2008 12:40:58 PM PST by weegee

MEXICO CITY — This year, for the first time, expatriate Democrats can cast their ballots on the Internet in a presidential primary for people living outside the United States.

Democrats Abroad, an official branch of the party representing overseas voters, will hold its first global presidential preference primary from Feb. 5 to 12, with ex-pats selecting the candidate of their choice by Internet as well as fax, mail and in-person at polling places in more than 100 countries.

Democrats Abroad is particularly proud of the online voting option — which provides a new alternative to the usual process of voting from overseas, a system made difficult by complicated voter registration paperwork, early deadlines and unreliable foreign mail service.

"The online system is incredibly secure: That was one of our biggest goals," said Lindsey Reynolds, executive director of Democrats Abroad. "And it does allow access to folks who ordinarily wouldn't get to participate."

U.S. citizens wanting to vote online must join Democrats Abroad before Feb. 1 and indicate their preference to vote by Internet instead of in the local primaries wherever they last lived in the United States. They must promise not to vote twice for president, but can still participate in non-presidential local elections.

Members get a personal identification number from Everyone Counts Inc., the San Diego-based company running the online election. They can then use the number to log in and cast their ballots.

Their votes will be represented at the August Democratic National Convention by 22 delegates, who according to party rules get half a vote each for a total of 11. That's more than U.S. territories get, but fewer than the least populous states, Wyoming and Alaska, which get 18 delegate votes each.

Everyone Counts has been building elections software for a decade, running the British Labor Party's online voting since 2000 and other British elections since 2003, chief executive officer Lori Steele said.

Online voting may give absentee voters more assurance that their ballots are being counted, since confirmation is not available in some counties. The Everyone Counts software even lets voters print out a receipt, unlike most electronic voting machines now in use in many states.

"We've had no security breaches. We do constant monitoring," Steele said. Online voting "provides really a higher standard of security than is available in any other kind of system, including paper."

Steele said a number of U.S. states had contacted her company to inquire about online voting for the 2008 presidential election.

"There are many, many states in the U.S. that would like to be offering this to their expatriate voters, their military voters and their disabled voters," Steele said.

But online voting has been slowed by a lack of funding for pilot programs. In a floor speech this month, Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., pushed for the distribution of money already approved under the Help America Vote Act so that states can improve ex-pat voting before the general election.

Some 6 million Americans living abroad are eligible to vote in U.S. elections, but only a fraction do so. Until recently, the only option was to mail absentee ballot request forms to the last U.S. county of residence, then wait in hopes that shaky mail systems would deliver the ballots in time to vote.

The system is so unreliable that of 992,034 ballots requested from overseas for the 2006 general election, only 330,000 were cast or counted, and 70 percent of those not counted were returned to elections officials as undeliverable, the U.S. Election Assistance Commission found.

In 2004, Juliet Lambert took her Oregon ballot to the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City, where drop service is available because of Mexico's notoriously undependable mail.

"I had to go through security to drop off my ballot, and I remember thinking I really must want to vote," said Lambert, a 37-year-old caterer who works with Democrats Abroad in Mexico. "I think it can be really daunting for people."

This year, Lambert is voting by Internet, "because it's easier, and I'm always online anyway."

Republicans Abroad has operated independently of the Republican Party since 2003, and therefore can't hold in-person or Internet votes abroad. But it is organizing to get more overseas Republicans registered back home before the primaries, Executive Director Cynthia Dillon said.

Republican votes from overseas could be more decisive because even small margins can make a difference in their winner-take-all state primaries. The Democrats divide primary votes proportionally, assigning delegates according to each leading candidate's share.

"In the Republican primary, the overseas vote could actually have a bigger impact: That vote could be the tipping vote, so to speak, that decides an election in a close race," said Steven Hill, an elections expert who directs the New America Foundation's Political Reform Program.

With so many states having moved up their primary dates, overseas voters should hurry up and register no matter how they plan on voting, Hill said. "These compressed timetables really make it difficult."

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Overseas voting options: Federal Voting Assistance Program: http://www.fvap.gov/

On this site, voters can print out forms, which must be filled out and mailed to county election officials using their last U.S. address. If the mail is unreliable in the country of residence, voters should check with the U.S. Embassy to see if drop service is available. County election officials will then return the ballot by mail.

Voters who do not receive their ballots at least two weeks before their state's scheduled primary should contact the FVAP, the State Department says. In most states, voters who do not receive their ballots on time can vote by federal write-in absentee ballot.

State Department information: http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_2964.html

This site also includes contact information for voting assistance officers in each country.

The Overseas Vote Foundation: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/

This new Web site for overseas voters tailors forms by county rules. A voter can fill out the paperwork online, print it out and follow the same process outlined above.

Democrats Abroad: http://www.democratsabroad.org/

Overseas Democrats who want to vote online should register here before Feb. 1.

Republicans Abroad: http://www.republicansabroad.org/

Republicans also offer registration assistance to overseas voters.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008election; democratprimary; democratsabroad; diebold; doublestandard; electronicvoting; expats; expatvote; fraud; howtostealanelection; mexico; rats; vote; votefraud
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1 posted on 01/23/2008 12:41:02 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee

Look for them to roll in by the hundreds of thousands from China for you-know-who


2 posted on 01/23/2008 12:44:44 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: weegee

The fix is in.


3 posted on 01/23/2008 12:46:08 PM PST by BeckB
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To: weegee

Yes,

And how do we know they are citizens?

Oh, I forgot, it doesn’t really matter for Democrats whether their voters are citizens or even alive.

And, will the ballots of these so-called ex-patriots be counted AFTER the ballots of our brave soldiers serving overseas?

I sincerely doubt it.


4 posted on 01/23/2008 12:46:21 PM PST by Westbrook
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To: weegee

Lotsa fursts with da clintons


5 posted on 01/23/2008 12:47:07 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Uncledave

Sounds like a legal challenge on votes (Republican) being excluded?


6 posted on 01/23/2008 12:47:19 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Uncledave

“They must promise not to vote twice for president, but can still participate in non-presidential local elections.”


7 posted on 01/23/2008 12:47:23 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: K-oneTexas

They oppose electronic balloting IN the states but fully support it overseas. Right.


8 posted on 01/23/2008 12:47:55 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: weegee

As long as they are not in the military!!


9 posted on 01/23/2008 12:48:03 PM PST by NeilGus
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To: Westbrook

There are a lot of so called dual citizens who vote in two nations’ elections.


10 posted on 01/23/2008 12:48:35 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: weegee

> There are a lot of so called dual citizens who vote in
> two nations’ elections.

Yes, I know someone who votes in two nations, and has both a US passport and a passport from the nation of her birth.

However, to vote in her native country, she must go to the nearest consulate of that country and present her native passport.

How many of these “expatriates” will be required to show their US passports at the nearest US consulate before voting?

Since they’re voting over the internet, my guess is ZERO.

It would be nice if they were required to enter their Passport Number and have that checked against their name and birthdate.

But the likelihood of that happening is also ZERO.

I submit that the purported “expatriate” vote will be overwhelmingly Democrat.

Unlike that of the Armed forces, which is overwhelmingly Republican.


11 posted on 01/23/2008 12:56:24 PM PST by Westbrook
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To: weegee
"And it does allow access to folks who ordinarily wouldn't get to participate."

Yea, we know.

12 posted on 01/23/2008 1:00:37 PM PST by VR-21
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To: weegee

I think when you move abroad, you should forgo any voting rights and leave it to the Americans at home.

While I was living oversees, never voted as I felt it was not my place as I did not know the issues enough and they would not impact me until my decision to return.


13 posted on 01/23/2008 1:01:19 PM PST by edcoil
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To: weegee

No VOTE FRAUD could EVER happen ....SARCASM!~!!!


14 posted on 01/23/2008 1:03:37 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: weegee

EVERYONE COUNTS, INC.........DEMOCRATS ABROAD....athese must be CLINTON FRONT GROUPS!! Anyone have any info on these???


15 posted on 01/23/2008 1:05:21 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: weegee

“Democrat Expatriot” = former illegal alien who is fraudulently registered to vote.


16 posted on 01/23/2008 1:33:25 PM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: BeckB
The fix is in.The fix is in.

Indeed. Mr. Soros gets what he pays for.

17 posted on 01/23/2008 1:35:38 PM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: weegee

How about if you don’t live in this country, you can’t participate in its elections?


18 posted on 01/23/2008 1:37:49 PM PST by LetsRok
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To: Uncledave

Sheesh, with pets, dead people and the demented elderly bussed across state lines to vote twice, they’ll surely not lose by a margin of 51-49% THIS time around!


19 posted on 01/23/2008 1:45:03 PM PST by tpanther
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To: LetsRok

There are people who work abroad but are still US citizens and even pay US taxes.

But I see no loyalty is someone who votes for leaders in two nations (just as I opposed Katrina refuges in Houston voting in both the New Orleans and Houston mayoral elections).

Add to that an absolute resistence to electronic voting IN America and support for INTERNET voting (which is even MORE open to hackers).

I NEVER want to see “online” voting.


20 posted on 01/23/2008 1:47:35 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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