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CA: Governor's bill in doubt after key senator says he'll vote no (Thank You, D-Leland Yee)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 1/22/08 | Steve Lawrence - ap

Posted on 01/22/2008 8:21:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge

A key state senator said Tuesday that he'll vote against Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's health care expansion bill, leaving the measure's fate in doubt on the eve of its first Senate hearing.

The bill's supporters also got some bad news from the Legislature's budget analyst, who said the costs of running an insurance pool that would be established under the program could exceed revenues by as much as $1.5 billion a year in the fifth year of the program. That would lead to an overall deficit in the fund of $4 billion under the cost scenario the analyst said was most realistic.

Sen. Leland Yee, a San Francisco Democrat who could end up being the swing vote on the measure, said he didn't like that the bill would require most Californians who couldn't get health insurance through an employer or a government program to buy it on their own.

"Californians should be extremely skeptical of a law which requires them to purchase insurance but allows insurance companies to charge any amount for the policy," Yee said in a statement. "This is not a step in the right direction but a huge jump backwards for California's working families without insurance."

He said he reached his decision after talking to union members who urged him to oppose the legislation.

The bill would require employers to spend a certain percentage of their payrolls on health coverage for their workers, either by buying policies themselves or paying into a state health insurance pool.

Most Californians who couldn't obtain coverage through jobs or a government program would be required to buy insurance on their own.

The plan would be funded through employer contributions, fees on hospitals and an increase in cigarette taxes, in addition to premiums paid by consumers. Administration officials also are counting on getting additional federal funding to expand health care programs for the poor.

Supporters say the proposal would provide coverage for most of the 5.1 million Californians who lack health insurance and force insurers to take all customers instead of denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

But opponents say there are a number of problems with the bill, including lack of adequate insurance cost controls and no real minimum coverage requirements for employer-financed health insurance.

The 11-member Senate Health Committee is scheduled to take up the bill on Wednesday.

With Yee and the chairwoman, Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, opposed, the measure would need the support of at least one of the committee's four Republicans to survive. No Republicans voted for the bill when it passed the Assembly in December.

Despite Yee's announcement, the bill's legislative author, Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, D-Los Angeles, said he expected it to pass the Senate.

"This is a Democratic bill, and I believe it warrants the type of Democratic support that can be championed by people that truly believe in Democratic values," Nunez said in a statement.

"I think in the end we'll make the right arguments, and I see no reason why this bill doesn't pass out of committee, regardless of the makeup of the committee," he added.

Yee and Kuehl support a Medicare-for-all type health care system that Schwarzenegger vetoed in 2006.

The legislative analyst's report, released late Tuesday, looked at how much it would cost to provide coverage through the insurance pool through the first five years of the program using two assumptions.

Under one scenario, a monthly premium of $250 per person, expenditures would exceed revenue by $300 million in the fifth year, but the fund would still have a positive balance because collections of employer contributions and tobacco taxes would start before the program began.

Under the second assumption, with monthly premiums of $300 a person, expenditures would exceed revenue in the first year of the program, 2010, by $122 million. There would be a shortfall of $1.5 billion annually in the fifth year.

The analyst said that in order to get costs down to $250 per person per month, the state would have to negotiate a much lower rate than paid by the average employer or substantially reduce minimum benefit levels.

A Schwarzenegger adviser, Daniel Zingale, said the administration's assumption of a monthly cost of $250 per person was sound and that having $300 million in uncovered costs in the fifth year was small compared to the overall size of the program.

A spokesman for Nunez, Steve Maviglio, said there would be cost risks associated with any health care reform.

"Our job now is to move forward with bringing California closer to the goal of universal coverage and to work hard to avoid, contain and manage any realistic fiscal risks associated with the plan," he said in a statement. "The best tool we have for doing that continues to be the plan's explicit provision that if funds aren't available the plan doesn't take effect."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldcare; banglist; california; demagogicparty; fascism; healthcare; hillarycare; lelandyee; rino; romneycare; schwarzenegger; socialism

1 posted on 01/22/2008 8:21:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Austria is a great place, Arnold should go back.


2 posted on 01/22/2008 8:25:52 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: NormsRevenge

lol, good luck out there.


3 posted on 01/22/2008 8:27:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge
Lawmakers are notorious for underestimating the "unmet needs" of entitlements they propose.

It would be interesting to know what their estimate is of the number of chronically ill U.S. citizens will move to California just to take advantage of a legislated artificially low health insurance rate.

To say nothing of the number of sick Mexicans that will flood the borders....

4 posted on 01/22/2008 8:28:33 PM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: NormsRevenge
We have a $15bil deficit, the guv calling for 10% accross the board cuts...and still pushing this healthcare plan?

These people are NOT serious people. They are charlatans, the guv and the dim co-sponsors.

5 posted on 01/22/2008 8:29:46 PM PST by Mariner
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To: HardStarboard

All drivers are required to have auto insurance in CA and probably 20% do not. A lot of those are illegals that also enjoy free health care. What will change?
I’m sure there will be an industry supplying phony health insurance cards. And still more sick people arriving at emergency wards with no insurance. Not to mention pregnant illegals ready to pop.


6 posted on 01/22/2008 8:32:10 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: NormsRevenge

What’s with these people? Unlike the Feds, they can’t just run the printing presses to make more money (and inflation in the process) or take loans from the Chinese... Where are they going to come up with the money to pay for this garbage?


7 posted on 01/22/2008 8:33:44 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: NormsRevenge
So basically, Yee and Zelda are voting no because the bill as is isn't enough. No, no thanks for that.
8 posted on 01/22/2008 8:38:03 PM PST by RichInOC (The California State Legislature...poster children for the Seventeenth Amendment.)
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To: NormsRevenge
fees on hospitals

I guess the illegal aliens werent closing them fast enough.

9 posted on 01/22/2008 8:41:30 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: NormsRevenge

Woo hoo!! Down with socialist fascism!!


10 posted on 01/22/2008 8:41:37 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: mortal19440
Austria is a great place, Arnold should go back.

I believe we could take up a collection here at FreeRepublic and get first-class tickets for his whole family and pay for all of the moving costs within a day if we thought he would take us up on the offer!

But seriously, Arnold is just another RHINO GOP governer, in the mold of Romney and Huckabee that because of their liberal policies utterly destroys the GOP within their respective states.

When will the GOP wake up and smell the coffee!

Running to the center and ultimately the left, never works!
11 posted on 01/22/2008 8:43:32 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: RichInOC

lol.. I hear ya,,

We’ll take a win where we can get it .. what a year ahead..


12 posted on 01/22/2008 8:57:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: SoConPubbie

“When will the GOP wake up and smell the coffee!”

I have come to the conclusion this is the GOP today. Why else would there be such a profusion of Leftist RINO’s under the GOP umbrella? Duncan and Fred were the last two Conservatives running under the formerly acknowledged Conservative Republican/GOP.

It’s incrementalism. Now those becoming Politically aware today and within the next few years will be subjected to, and learn the new definition of what “Conservatism” is.

Conservative will become as we know it moderate Leftism, compromising and giving in to the Leftists.

Unchecked there will be no Free Republic Conservatism as we know it today in say...twenty years.


13 posted on 01/22/2008 9:02:23 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I was living in kalifornistan at the time of the recall and distinctly remember arnie campaigning as a fiscal conservative.

What was that? A tease?

14 posted on 01/22/2008 9:30:22 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: NormsRevenge

So Kuehl and Yee are against it because it’s not big enough or costly enough. Yeah, you bet Yee, thanks for opposing this one. I’d hold out for the back breaker too. Being a dem and all what else can you do?


15 posted on 01/22/2008 9:39:11 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: LouAvul

It was a lie.


16 posted on 01/22/2008 9:41:33 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: NormsRevenge
You'll love ArnoldCare's hefty price tag. Especially in a state in a recession.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 01/23/2008 10:03:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Note: this topic was posted 1/22/2008. Found it in the Leland Yee keyword. Thanks NormsRevenge.
18 posted on 03/28/2014 6:34:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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