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Fredheads, It's Time to Support Mitt
The Jawa Report ^ | January 22, 2008 05:18 PM | Dr. Rusty Shackleford

Posted on 01/22/2008 3:22:24 PM PST by Checkers

Dear fellow Fredheads,

It's time to support Mitt Romney. Can Mitt win in a general election? I don't know. Certainly he has always had a better chance than Fred. And if the opposition is Hillary Clinton, then maybe.

McCain can beat Hillary. But McCain is, well, McCain.

To be honest, I'm not as down on McCain as most of my fellow Jawas and you, the readers. But that's just because I've been a one-issue guy since right around, oh, let me see, I think the date was 9/11/2001.

But still, McCain doesn't get that the border is tied in with our national security.

Mitt does. And he seems to get the war on political Islam.

Sure, Rudy also seems to get both, but it's probably too little too late for him.

I'm hearing some oddball theory that a lot of Fredheads are natural Huckabee supporters. That's insane. Like, certifiably insane.

It's built on the presumption that the evangelical supporters of Thompson are in the same boat as the evangelical supporters of Huckabee. I got news for Tom Edsell: they aint the same animal. Sure, they may have the same funny accent, and so I'm guessing that to an outsider like Edsell the presumption is that they must be the same species. But they're not.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fredthompson; jimrobforpres; rinomitt; romney; voteronpaul
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To: Checkers
McCain can beat Hillary.

Not a chance.

I'll at least consider pulling the lever for Mitt. Can't say that about crazy mclame.

121 posted on 01/22/2008 4:37:34 PM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Route66

I can’t speack for Checkers, he can speak for himself.

My posting history shows I have been a strong opponent to claims about Mitt Romney that I believed were inaccurate, unfair, or misleading.

At times I have made comparisons with Fred Thompson in response to arguments about strict and long-term adherence to conservative principles. in those comparisons, I always noted that I did not fault Thompson for his former positions. I have also made it clear that Thompson was always a choice for me, and was only relegated to 2nd choice because I didn’t believe he was going to survive.

I also from time to time pointed out what I believed to be the problems that were causing Fred not to catch on with the voters. I did so not to attack him, but to explain his position with voters.

I always felt that his dismissal of church membership was a problem for evangelicals, as was his dismissal of Dobson, and his lack of support for HLA and the Marriage amendment.

I always had a 2-candidate strategy (Hunter was never close to being viable enough to think about as part of a strategy). I worked to get Fred Thompson in the race because I saw flaws in Romney’s ability to get the nomination, and because Fred was obviously acceptable to the conservative community.

I donated to Fred (I only recently donated to Romney). When it came time, I collected signatures to get Fred Thompson on the ballot in Virginia. I did not make an endorsement on my own blog. I declared my 1st choice here because some people suggested it was deceptive not to, but I did NOT urge Fred Thompson supporters to switch candidates.

I only do so now because Fred is gone. If you check, I never said that Fred should quit the race either.

I long ago decided that Mitt Romney was a good conservative choice for President. I also thought Fred Thompson would be a good conservative choice for President. I supported both. I defended Romney because Fred didn’t need to be defended here, while Romney did.

I always figured that if Thompson caught on, it would be at the expense of Romney. But Thompson did not catch on, and Romney has the organization, money, experience, and the strategy to win the nomination, and to win the election.

Nothing I did prevented a single person from voting for Fred, except if my defense of Romney made some people decide NOT to switch to Fred. Even when talking to people, if they said they didn’t like Romney, I always told them they should vote for Fred. I even steered Huckabee people in my church to Fred (a hard sell, unfortunately, due to the aforementioned items).

So sorry, Fred is out because of how Fred decided to run his campaign. I pretty much always feel it is the candidate’s job to convince people to vote for him. If I took personal responsibility for every candidate who failed to do his job with the voters, I’d be a depressed person indeed.


122 posted on 01/22/2008 4:37:52 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cowdog77

So you and Hunter are both bitter. Nice.


124 posted on 01/22/2008 4:38:51 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: gidget7

I didn’t know that, thanks


125 posted on 01/22/2008 4:39:33 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Checkers
Romney wants to extend this to the whole country. He says it's not a mandate at the end, but earlier in the article it is stated that it is mandatory.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2005-07-04-health-insurance-usat_x.htm

126 posted on 01/22/2008 4:40:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: Checkers

Switch2Mitt


127 posted on 01/22/2008 4:41:08 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number 1 FredHead Switch2Mitt)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Sorry, but in my opinion Romney is a conservative. I said so when Fred was in the race, and I say so today. His platform is a solid conservative platform, I've posted a 26-point platform summary that, if I didn't tell you the name of the candidate, you would be gung-ho to support.

Since you mentioned terrorists, Romney is one of our candidates who calls them what they are: Confronting Radical Jihad-MittRomney.com

Jihadism – violent, radical, fundamental Islam – is this century’s nightmare. It follows the same dark path as last century’s nightmares: fascism and Soviet communism. Many still fail to comprehend the extent of the threat posed by radical Islam, specifically by those extremists who promote violent Jihad against the United States and the universal values Americans espouse. Yet, the consequences of ignoring this threat – such as a radicalized Islamic actor possessing nuclear weapons – are simply unacceptable.
Radical Islam has one goal: to replace all modern Islamic states with a worldwide caliphate while destroying the United States and converting all nonbelievers, forcibly if necessary, to a fundamentalist form of Islam.

Merely closing our eyes and hoping that Jihadism will go away is not an acceptable solution. U.S. military action alone cannot change the hearts and minds of hundreds of millions of Muslims. In the end, only Muslims themselves can defeat the violent radicals. But we must work with them. The consequences of ignoring this threat – such as a radicalized Islamic actor possessing nuclear weapons – are simply unacceptable.

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: "I think many of us still fail to comprehend the extent of the threat posed by radical Islam, by Jihad. Understandably, we focus on Afghanistan and Iraq. Our men and women are dying there.We think in terms of countries, because we faced countries in last century's conflicts. But the Jihad is much broader than any one nation or nations. Jihad encompasses far more than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. For radical Islam, there is an over-arching conflict and goal - replacing all modern Islamic states with a caliphate, destroying America, and conquering the world." (Governor Mitt Romney, Remarks At The George Herbert Walker Bush Presidential Library, 4/10/07)

Romney has been speaking with the right terminology and the right focus throughout this campaign.

129 posted on 01/22/2008 4:42:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: All

Everyone: Think about Mitt, his record, his character, and his positions.....and then wave a magic wand to make Mitt——POOF—not a Mormon!!! How would you feel about him then?

Fred was my first choice, but Fred isn’t running for president anymore. Mitt is my next choice and I hope he chooses Fred as his VP.


130 posted on 01/22/2008 4:43:38 PM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Route66

Yep.

Btw, I didn’t screw up Fred’s campaign.


131 posted on 01/22/2008 4:43:48 PM PST by Checkers (John McCain is Bob Dole minus the character, humor, class, record, loyalty, mental fitness...)
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To: Fishtalk
The link at the top works fine, I just tried it. As for the embedded links in the article, they won't and I said so.

But to be nice, here: The Mitt Romney Deception

And here: How Gov. Mitt Romney started same-sex “marriage” in Massachusetts - despite what he says now!

132 posted on 01/22/2008 4:44:59 PM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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To: BnBlFlag

To be fair, that was not the opinion of the author, it was his interpretation of the opinion of someone he was addressing his argument to, the people associated with his blog.

I have no idea if the author agreed with that assessment or not. I know I don’t.


133 posted on 01/22/2008 4:45:18 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Checkers
Mitt is a conservative.

Huh? The Fredheads are giving you the looney sign. The potheads are wondering where they can get some of the drugs you're on.

134 posted on 01/22/2008 4:45:29 PM PST by pt17
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To: Checkers
Who will Fred support?

Will Fred supporters support Fred's choice?

135 posted on 01/22/2008 4:46:11 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Theophilus

The quote is not the author’s opinion, he is discussing the opinion of someone who was writing about why Thompson supporters would go to Huckabee, probably a Huckabee person.


136 posted on 01/22/2008 4:46:17 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TonyM

Best Post of Thread Award !


137 posted on 01/22/2008 4:46:47 PM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Surrounded by chuckling, disbelieveing Democrats, Governor Mitt Romney signs government-mandated universal health care coverage into law.


138 posted on 01/22/2008 4:47:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Theophilus

That was Fred’s position as well on abortion — rape, incest, life of the mother, allow states to decide.

That was in 2005, and Romney now supports the Human Life Amendment, which would not actually take the decision from the states, but would limit their options to a great extent.

Huckabee said he was for changing the constitution, but then he said he was not, or that the HLA would never pass anyway so people shouldn’t worry about his statement about re-writing the constitution so it matches the Bible.


139 posted on 01/22/2008 4:49:01 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Checkers

I like almost everything Mitt says....

This year...

But....

I HATE EVERYTHING HE’s EVER ACTUALLY DONE !!


140 posted on 01/22/2008 4:49:47 PM PST by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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