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To: Wonder Warthog

>> I repeat—you need to study the history a bit more.

I repeat — condescension is obnoxious.

>> Their proposed tactics didn’t involve suicide bombing, but, they might well have used highjacked airliners.

But they didn’t. Thus — with the absence of suicide bombers and no hijackers using airplanes as weapons against civilian targets ... they’re clearly not the same.

Additionally — you failed to respond to my observation that it remains a poor idea to fight a current conflict with outdated security tactics. Regardless of whether the Islamic terrorists are tactically identical to the Nazis ... you cannot fight a new war with old tactics and expect to win. Enemies adapt to security — so we must continually adapt security to the enemies.

>> It is an unacceptable and highly dangerous curtailment of our civil liberties for an totally unjustifiable reason.

Which civil liberties are curtailed by an ID? This sounds like the phantom curtailment of civil liberties that liberals SWEAR is occurring due to the PATRIOT Act.

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96 posted on 01/23/2008 9:18:17 AM PST by SnakeDoctor
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To: Hemorrhage
"..condescension is obnoxious..."

Stating a fact isn't condecension.

"But they didn’t. Thus — with the absence of suicide bombers and no hijackers using airplanes as weapons against civilian targets ... they’re clearly not the same.

The reason they didn't is that they were caught, arrested, and some of them executed WITHOUT any need for putting everyone's information into a centralized database.

"....you failed to respond to my observation that it remains a poor idea to fight a current conflict with outdated security tactics.

And you know that the security tactics are outdated how??

"Regardless of whether the Islamic terrorists are tactically identical to the Nazis ... you cannot fight a new war with old tactics and expect to win. Enemies adapt to security — so we must continually adapt security to the enemies.

Maybe, but REAL ID and a central database with the biometric ID data of every human in the USA is not the way to do. It's MUCH too dangerous. And I suspect it is a violation of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments.

"Which civil liberties are curtailed by an ID? This sounds like the phantom curtailment of civil liberties that liberals SWEAR is occurring due to the PATRIOT Act."

It isn't the ID card that's the problem---the problem is that centralized database. Which is a point all you "I've got nothing to hide" types always keep ducking."

102 posted on 01/23/2008 12:29:20 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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