Stating a fact isn't condecension.
"But they didnt. Thus with the absence of suicide bombers and no hijackers using airplanes as weapons against civilian targets ... theyre clearly not the same.
The reason they didn't is that they were caught, arrested, and some of them executed WITHOUT any need for putting everyone's information into a centralized database.
"....you failed to respond to my observation that it remains a poor idea to fight a current conflict with outdated security tactics.
And you know that the security tactics are outdated how??
"Regardless of whether the Islamic terrorists are tactically identical to the Nazis ... you cannot fight a new war with old tactics and expect to win. Enemies adapt to security so we must continually adapt security to the enemies.
Maybe, but REAL ID and a central database with the biometric ID data of every human in the USA is not the way to do. It's MUCH too dangerous. And I suspect it is a violation of the Fourth and Fifth Amendments.
"Which civil liberties are curtailed by an ID? This sounds like the phantom curtailment of civil liberties that liberals SWEAR is occurring due to the PATRIOT Act."
It isn't the ID card that's the problem---the problem is that centralized database. Which is a point all you "I've got nothing to hide" types always keep ducking."
>> Stating a fact isn’t condecension.
Assuming those that disagree MUST be less educated than you IS condescension.
>> The reason they didn’t is that they were caught, arrested, and some of them executed WITHOUT any need for putting everyone’s information into a centralized database.
Nonsense — the reason they didn’t is there weren’t Nazi suicide bombers during WWII (a fact you noted yourself just a single post ago).
>> And you know that the security tactics are outdated how??
Lets assume you’re right about the Nazi’s seeking to use hijacked planes as weapons against civilian targets ... you stated they were stopped an executed. The 9-11 hijackers were not stopped. This would certainly be evidence that security may need an overhaul, as it appears enemies have figured out how to circumvent the security measures that supposedly stopped the Nazi hijackers.
>> It isn’t the ID card that’s the problem-—the problem is that centralized database.
Centralizing information that various government agencies already have is not an infringement on individual rights — it is streamlining bureaucracy.
Nor is gathering information regarding activities which occur in public — i.e. grocery store purchases (an example you used previously, I believe) are not private information ... it is information related to an activity done in public, and in plain sight of possible government officials.
I heard the same outcy from liberals about the Justice Dept. supposedly asking for public library book checkout information and/or bookstore purchases ... there is simply no right to privacy regarding this information (especially books checked out from a government-run library).
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