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To: MBB1984

Mc Cain has been dead wrong on several issues, but his conservative voting record is rated at 86%. Take a look at Romney’s record and if you went down what he said and what he did, his conservative rating would probably be below 30%. Are we to excuse Romney for saying and doing what he did just because he was in Massachusetts/ What ever happended to priciple? Romney raised taxes and called it “fees”. Romney disassociated himself from Reagan and GHW Bush in a debate with Kennedy. Romney brags about his health care bill that fines people if the don’t sign up for health insurance. It also partially funds abortion. Romney supported and voted for Paul Tsongas against GHW Bush. Romney supports “Gay Unions”. Romney visited and supported pro abortion rally’s. Romney is nothing more than a candidate of convenience who will say and do whatever it takes at any given time. He is a person of no principle or courage.


18 posted on 01/21/2008 11:49:55 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Take a look at Romney’s record and if you went down what he said and what he did, his conservative rating would probably be below 30%

Pure nonsense. That's why the president of the ACU endorsed him, right?

Romney raised taxes and called it “fees.”

There's a big difference between fees and taxes. Fees are prices charged to users of specific government services. You only pay them if you use a particular government service. Taxes are charged to everyone.

Making the only people who actually use a government service pay for it , rather than the taxpayer, is a conservative position. That's what Romney did.

Romney made the people who actually drive on the MA turnpike pay more of the cost of maintaining it (the toll still doesn't cover it fully). He made people who actually use state golf courses pay for the cost of upkeep. He made people who get duplicate drivers' lisences pay the cost of getting one. What's wrong with that?

Romney brags about his health care bill that fines people if the don’t sign up for health insurance.

There's nothing wrong with punishing people who act irresponsibly. In fact, that's generally something conservatives support.

It also partially funds abortion.

Massachusetts had taxpayer funded abortion before Romney came into office. The state supreme court, in a really bad decision, mandated it long before Romney's time.

Romney supported and voted for Paul Tsongas against GHW Bush.

That's a lie. He crossed over and voted in the Democratic primary in 1988 because the Republican primary was uncontested. Lots of Republicans did that. He voted for Bush in the general election.

Romney supports “Gay Unions”.

That's a lie.

29 posted on 01/21/2008 12:02:30 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Some accurate statements, but also some inaccurate ones. First, McCain’s ACU rating last year was around 65, pathetic for a Republican. His lifetime rating is much higher since he used to be a conservative. He moved steadily left since 2000 and the 65 is where he is really is now.

Romney did some democrat things in MA. Some of that is due to the very liberal legislature. He compromised with the legislature to get legislation passed. But, it was not Romney’s fault that the insurance paid for abortions. That was court ordered. It is also my understanding that he does not support civil unions (George Bush does, unfortunately). He fought against gay marriage.

Romney’s past support for abortion is very troubling. But, I suspect deep down, as a Mormon, he really does lean pro-life. In an election of RINOs, I believe Romney is probably the best of the bunch.

59 posted on 01/21/2008 12:28:32 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Mc Cain has been dead wrong on several issues, but his conservative voting record is rated at 86%. Take a look at Romney’s record and if you went down what he said and what he did, his conservative rating would probably be below 30%.

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You Anti-Romney (Mormon) guys got me to look into your charges. I looked into what he DID as governer. What he DID was be the most conservative governer of his state in the history of the state. What he DID is what is important to me.

He agreed to domestic partners rather than have queer marriages. He agreed to uphold the law on abortion just like Bush does now because IT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND!

What’s wrong with fees? I’m a business man, I have my own business and don’t mind paying for what I use. I find it much better to pay for what I use than having you pay for it, so what is wrong with fees?

What he did in Mass. is pretty important. He was a lone conservative voice in a socialist state yet he ruled as a conservative much to the discontent of the citizens of the state.

I was a Thompson supporter, he is not willing to work hard enough for it. Romney is now my guy, he is putting his own money into it, I find that refreshing. His kids and wife are out supporting him. He doesen’t have any ex-wives to worry about or children that will make him look bad. Generally a man that is good to his kids and wife is a good man I don’t care what religion he has.

People tell me they can’t vote for someone who thinks someday he will be a god. Well I don’t care what he thinks he will be once he is dead, what difference does it make. Some people say they will be sitting on clouds playing harps, I don’t buy that either. I don’t dis a guy because he thinks he will play a harp in the next life even though he couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket in this life.

Go-Mitt!!

97 posted on 01/21/2008 1:10:53 PM PST by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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