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FairTax cut for 2-parent families
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 19, 2008 | Howard and Raymond Richman

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:29:07 AM PST by Man50D

During an election season, one of the first losers is the truth. The current misinformation campaign against the FairTax has been particularly virulent. Last month the FairTax was being panned by some columnists as a "crackpot scheme," even though it could be collected exactly the same way as its close cousin, the value-added tax, which is the most successful tax in the world. This month the FairTax is being vilified by various columnists as a tax increase for the middle class, even though it would provide a substantial tax cut for two-parent middle class families. Specifically, in a recent column, George Will asked, "Do you want a president (Mike Huckabee, proponent of a national sales tax of at least 30 percent) pledged to radically increase the proportion of federal taxes paid by the middle class?" Similarly, Time magazine's business and economics columnist Justin Fox wrote a blog piece entitled, "The FairTax and its big break for the $200,000-plus crowd."

The FairTax is a national sales tax that would replace the income taxes, the payroll taxes, and the gift and inheritance taxes. It would be a 30 percent sales tax on retail purchases. Since 30 cents is 23 percent of $1.30 (the amount you would pay on a $1 item), a 30 percent FairTax would cost you about 23 percent of your consumption. To help you pay the tax, you would get a prebate check or a debit card credit at the beginning of each month equivalent to the amount you would pay when buying necessities. In 2007, that amount would have been based upon $10,210 spending per adult and $3,480 spending per child.

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To: Man50D

What about my 8.25 local sales tax and my 40 cent per booth tolls that pay for roads in Texas?


301 posted on 01/21/2008 3:15:17 PM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
What about my 8.25 local sales tax and my 40 cent per booth tolls that pay for roads in Texas?

No state will be required to replace state taxes with a national sales tax but they will find advantages if they do use The Fair Tax. The Fair Tax is a much broader tax base allowing states to lower their tax rates or eliminate certain tax and still collect the same amount of taxes. States will be reimbursed for collecting the Fair Tax. Administrative costs on the state level will be considerably reduced since The Treasury Department will be the collection authority.
302 posted on 01/21/2008 3:27:02 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Mojave

Yes, you are very focused. So focused that you can only see the microscopic view.

You’re so worried that someone might not spend enough to cover $196 in taxes each month that you’re missing out on the other issues.

But that is not accidental or unintentional, is it?

So what kind of people are likely to take and hoard $196/month and make a gain out of it? And how many of them are there?

Is this a fatal flaw or just some sort of crusade?

Why are you guarding the status quo?


303 posted on 01/21/2008 3:31:10 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: Eagle Eye
You’re so worried that someone might not spend enough to cover $196 in taxes each month that you’re missing out on the other issues.

If people are paying that much in hidden "necessity" taxes now, why not send the monthly welfare checks out now?

304 posted on 01/21/2008 3:34:21 PM PST by Mojave
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To: groanup
"We're too busy trying to avoid stepping in it."

All I see is shuckin' and jivin' to avoid addressing shortfalls in THE FT.

It's not fair yet. Note that fairness and simplicity in something as complex as an economy of 300,000,000 folks hooked into a world economy of slightly more.are antithetical. It might be made fair, but if it's a "done deal", "all or nothing", "no changes", boilerplate it resembles the immigration amnesty deal.

305 posted on 01/21/2008 3:36:41 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: groanup
"You hand lickers"

I love it when you talk FT that way. It's exciting.

306 posted on 01/21/2008 3:38:32 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Eagle Eye
Pretending to misunderstand the question is a pretty common fairtaxer trait..
307 posted on 01/21/2008 3:39:48 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: xcamel

Instead of making oblique accusations, which is a common tactic of cowards, make your statements direct and to the point.

In case you missed it, I questioned your ability to make a direct point because I think you lack either the intelligence or the guts or both.


308 posted on 01/21/2008 3:42:07 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: xcamel

Vote for new taxes. Trust the government.


309 posted on 01/21/2008 3:45:20 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

The EIC is welfare.

The prebates assume that in the larger picture few will actually ‘make’ money. And then when they spend the prebates (that money designed to credit or refund a portion of sales taxes paid) they end up paying taxes again.

Of course if they choose to be smart consumers buying second hand then they won’t pay those taxes.

But those at the lowest end of the economic scales are not known for being smart consumers or savvy investors, are they?

Why do you prefer the EIC and IRS?


310 posted on 01/21/2008 3:50:07 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: Eagle Eye
The EIC is welfare.

So by FT logic, everyone should recieve a fixed EIC.

311 posted on 01/21/2008 3:52:26 PM PST by Mojave
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To: groanup
"The anti's are always the first to foment the ill will"

Are not.

312 posted on 01/21/2008 3:52:50 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: seemoAR
I would be a lot happier if I could choose where my tax money would be spent. I know of a lot of government spending that would never see a red cent from me.

Subsidies to professional ball players and their stadiums is a sore spot with me. Welfare of every stripe as well. Getting a handle on the improper spending is orthogonal to the issue of how money is collected. We should be pounding on the politicians to cut the outrageous spending.

313 posted on 01/21/2008 3:58:08 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Mojave

By your logic, it is all the government’s money to begin with.


314 posted on 01/21/2008 4:09:14 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: Eagle Eye
The big lie technique. FT SOP
315 posted on 01/21/2008 4:11:49 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

LOL...your support of the IRS is simply too transparent!


316 posted on 01/21/2008 4:16:09 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Agreeing with Democrats = agreeing with Al Queada)
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To: Eagle Eye

The “prebate” welfare check won’t get you out of your Mom’s garage.


317 posted on 01/21/2008 4:18:35 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Eagle Eye
Why is it then, in 315 posts, that you are the only one who misunderstood my question (or feigned ignorance) , then in typical fairtaxer tradition, you choose to insult and personally attack me instead of answering a question an 8 year old could handle?

Let me simplify it some more for you:

“Fairtax: I must trust the government, because I can not trust the government”

318 posted on 01/21/2008 4:20:19 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: Myrddin
"We should be pounding on the politicians to cut the outrageous spending."

Hear!, Hear!

A better use of scarce conservative energy. Though they could just cut the tax rates too (Rudi's plan sould like a good, fast short term fix)

319 posted on 01/21/2008 4:21:48 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Eagle Eye

look this one up:

“Post hoc ergo proptor hoc”


320 posted on 01/21/2008 4:22:25 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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