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1 posted on 01/19/2008 7:10:53 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
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We the People Sheeple of the United States Nanny State, in Order to form a more perfect Union Socialist Utopia, establish Justice Socially engineer a country of non smoking, physically fit, tea totallers, insure domestic Tranquility Smoking bans in bars, limits on unhealthy food and social drinking, provide for the common defense Universal Healthcare, promote the general Welfare health of the population whether they like it or not, in order to save above mentioned Universal Healthcare entitlement program from bankruptcy, and secure the Blessings of Liberty Dependency to ourselves progressive liberals and our Posterity Hitler Youth who we brainwash through public school education, do ordain decree and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Nanny State of Liberals.

2 posted on 01/19/2008 7:13:48 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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“I was here to see a movie and had no idea there was a citywide ordinance,” he said. “This is an unreasonable law.”

Seems to me that this fellow has a good case to make in fighting the violation in court. Unless there are signs posted all over every public space in the town, how is a visitor supposed to know that the use of a perfectly legal product is illegal in this place?

At any rate, I would refuse to do business in any municipality that has an anti-smoking ordinance like this . . . so Jon Little should take his money elsewhere the next time he wants to see a movie.

3 posted on 01/19/2008 7:16:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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Nanny State Ping!

These people just won’t stop, will they?

Alas, there are many here on FR who actually support this kind of nonsense.


8 posted on 01/19/2008 7:24:02 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Tobacco will soon be illegal. The Mexican gangs will then supply it at a price about 100 times what it now costs. They will make so much money that they can buy tanks and F-15’s and will become the de facto government of Mexico. The War on Drugs, it works every time it’s tried. For the gangsters, that is.


9 posted on 01/19/2008 7:24:58 PM PST by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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This crap is getting completely out of hand.

It is hysteria, plain and simple.

12 posted on 01/19/2008 7:32:12 PM PST by elkfersupper
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It’s a shame Johnny Carson isn’t around to make “beautiful downtown Burbank” jokes about this anymore, isn’t it?


15 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:38 PM PST by RichInOC (You drive to the Slauson cutoff, get out of your car, cut off your Slauson, get back in your car...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

You would think that by now, someone would have invented a smoking device where no combustion smoke of the tobacco would be released, and the smoker would exhale through the device, which would only put out hot cleaned air. Optimally, they could put several cigarettes worth of tobacco in it.

The idea being that they could prove that there was no second hand smoke, *or* cigarette butts. Then challenge the anti smoking laws on scientific grounds.


16 posted on 01/19/2008 7:41:26 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I remember when I was a kid listening to my Mom and Dad talking about how Nikita Khrushchev, of the Soviet Union had laughed at our fears over the threat of communism.

Khrushchev had said, we didn’t have to worry about them attacking us because they wouldn’t have to. He said that we would eventually law ourselves into communism.

Makes me wonder if he was right.

20 posted on 01/19/2008 7:44:17 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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“We get a very small percentage of [the fine],” he said. “We’re not out there making money.”

Of course it's not money that they're after - rather, they get their jollies from the sheer enjoyment of the tyranny, the head rush that comes from wielding unmitigated power over the peons, and the ecstasy of moral righteousness felt by every ninny and nanny and Taliban goon...

21 posted on 01/19/2008 7:46:29 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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I am shocked that with as many actors that smoke this would pass. If I was their I would go and buy numerous packs of cigarettes and just as I was walking break the cigarette apart and litter everywhere.


27 posted on 01/19/2008 8:03:56 PM PST by napscoordinator
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I have never smoked, or been even tempted to do so. it's a disguusting habit that kills people, including two of my grandfathers...and anybody who tries to outlaw it is a despicable commie scumbag.

Orwell was prescient. We'll all be doing morning calesthenics for Big Brother if this keeps up.

33 posted on 01/19/2008 9:15:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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Want to see how California leftists felt about smoking back in the 60’s? Check out this short video of Donovan — it’s a scream, and a nice song too.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=35VIFm1wRTM


35 posted on 01/19/2008 9:20:09 PM PST by WL-law
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The city receives about 10% for each ticket, with the rest allocated to various court-assessed fees, Stehr said, though the exact amount of money the city and the court receive is incalculable.

In Chicago that used to be called walking-around money. You could avoid paying a traffic ticket if you were lucky enough to be pulled over by an officer who was selling pencils.

"Let's see, I have a $5 pencil, a $10 pencil, and a $20 pencil in my shirt pocket today. I think you need to buy a $20 pencil today. Or do you have another idea?"

56 posted on 01/20/2008 6:37:13 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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This is exactly what will happen when we have a liberal government in charge.


58 posted on 01/20/2008 6:46:09 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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As he crossed the street, Little, a student at Antelope Valley College, was cited and fined $200 for smoking in Downtown Burbank, a violation of the citywide smoking ban that bars smoking on all sidewalks, alleys and other pedestrian areas Downtown, as well as on city property, including Chandler Bikeway and in parks.

Yeah, tobacco is a legal product taxed to the hilt however making use of the purchase of a legal product and enjoying it is against the law.

How many hairs are there left to split via the promotion of freedom?

61 posted on 01/20/2008 11:11:59 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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