Posted on 01/19/2008 6:27:28 PM PST by nj26
David Plouffe, in a succinct statement appended to a released quotation from his boss, Barack Obama, said the Obama campaign was investigating more than 200 reporters of irregularities in Nevada.
“We currently have reports of over 200 separate incidents of trouble at caucus sites, including doors being closed up to thirty minutes early, registration forms running out so people were turned away, and ID being requested and checked in a non-uniform fashion. This is in addition to the Clinton campaign’s efforts to confuse voters and call into question the at-large caucus sites which clearly had an affect on turnout at these locations. These kinds of Clinton campaign tactics were part of an entire week’s worth of false, divisive, attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself."Plouffe asks Nevadans to call a toll-free number, (866) 675-2008, and report any other problems.
Obama, for his part, said he "ran an honest, uplifting campaign in Nevada that focused on the real problems Americans are facing, a campaign that appealed to people’s hopes instead of their fears."
(Excerpt) Read more at marcambinder.theatlantic.com ...
Hillary Clinton is turning out to be the Tanya Harding of Politics - Nisleib - Daily Kos Member
I can’t imagine why anyone would be surprised about this. This is just Clinton being Clinton.
Actually, it’s pretty mild compared to what’s in store in the future if Obama starts getting more traction.
There’s only one rule when it comes to the Clintons. Win and hold one.
Not dirty; merely slick!
I think so too. It's not going to be about issues, as many here believe, but about tissues!
Osama would be easier to beat because of general unease about his race and his religion. Robert Goulet was right, it's the Feeeeeeeelings, dummy!
I think Obama was caught out a little in NH. I’ll bet anything he was the real winner there, and it was only Hillary busing in out of staters and such that stole it for her.
This time I’m sure he was prepared and waiting to document.
The thing is, the MSM will take this seriously. Come November, all these dirty tricks will be turned against Republicans, and the News media will not only ignore them, but secretly cheer them on.
We know that they've already used the tired and phony one about tampering with the electronic voting machines. Have they used the equally bogus one about racist police speed traps keeping minorities down by intimidating their voters yet? How about the phony charge about the leaflets with the wrong polling place address or wrong election date? The sabotaged get-out-the-vote vans? Any others from their all-time-favorite phony complaints list?
Clinton and Reid - perfect together.
His campaign manager, David Plouffe, was far more pointed in a written statement that accused the Clinton campaign of "an entire week's worth of false, divisive attacks designed to mislead caucus-goers and discredit the caucus itself."
...Whatever the hard feelings, she told supporters they would fade by the fall general election campaign. "We will all be united in November," she said, as the crowd chanted "HRC, HRC."
We shall see.
LOve how the Dems are practicing MAD politics.. Hillary and Bill don’t realize their scorcged earth tactics will win the nomination, but may very well lose them the election. Not only that, but their pandering to the Hispanices is seriously pissing off the black vote . Hillary got 3-1 Hispanic vote over Obama, while Obama was 4-1 in the black vote. The Dems are headed for a crack-up and we may see it come to a head in South carolina,
Here’s my story:
I got to the location at 10:30am and set up. The Hillary people were already there. In charge of them was a 60-ish woman with a slight Brooklyn accent. Here were the irregularities in my precinct alone:
The Hillary operative tried to force the doors to close at 11:30am. KK was outside greeting people, and she overheard the Hillary campaign mention that the doors would be closing at 11:30am, and she went to talk to the precinct chair. So we intervened and said that that was absolutely not legal by the rules. She then started screaming at the chair to close the doors. When he read the rules that they were open until 12noon, she said that “that’s not what I was told, other campaigns were spreading misinformation.” We stood our ground, and the doors remained open.
A man in a wheelchair came in with his daughter, and said he was an Edwards supporter. When his daughter began to wheel him to the middle of the room, the Hillary operative tapped her on the shoulder, took the wheelchair and took him to the Clinton corner. I rushed over from talking to an undecided voter and objected loudly, but his daughter was a Hillary person. The Clinton operative said, “I don’t control what he does; she does.” At that point I said to the man, “Nobody controls you. If you want to vote for Edwards, you have every right to go to the center of the room. Do you need help?” He looked at me plaintively, but said nothing as his daughter dragged him farther back into the corner and just shook his head.
The Clinton operative herself had a Brooklyn accent and I overheard her mention having been from New York. When she stood to be counted in the middle of the room, I objected and asked her if she was actually from Nevada. She said yes. I talked to the chair and asked him to ask her name and find her on the list. He asked her her name and checked the list, and she was not on it. At this point the chair said, “well, I can’t ask for ID.” I said, “She can’t participate if no one will vouch for her.” At this point a Hispanic man wearing a Hillary shirt said she was his wife. While that’s not impossible, it was also improbable—but I had no way to verify or object further.
One voter who hadn’t even finished registering said that she was undecided, and the Hillary operative physically escorted her to the Hillary side. I went to talk to the woman, but she was immediately surrounded by 3 Hillary supporters who would not let me in, and I had to attend to others registering at that point (our operatives were outnumbered by hers 2-1).
Hillary supporters were doing check-in, and a Hillary sign was behind them. I forced the sign off the table, and I went to the front desk to verify that everything went according to the rules at checkin—but if nothing else, the necessity of doing so prevented me from doing other needed work.
Even so, KK and I managed to convince 6 undecided/Edwards voters (Edwards & uncommitted both lacked viability in my caucus), while their cheating, ruthless operatives only convinced two—and our caucus outperformed the field, garnering 4 delegates to her 5. It was intense—and it was war. I knew what the Clinton operatives were up to, and they knew I knew. It was bloodless war; I almost feel pity for the goodhearted Obama volunteers who were unprepared for the level of sociopathy that I expected—and encountered—from the Clinton campaign.
After being a part of this campaign, doing this work, and seeing this level of viciousness from a supposedly Democratic candidate, it will be a cold day in hell before I do any work for anyone in any way associated with Hillary Clinton. At this point, even my general election vote is in question. I am furious almost to the point of nausea. There are so many young, idealistic activists here who are absolutely crushed—not because we lost here, but because of the way we “lost.” Disillusionment is running extremely high—and I doubt very much of many of them will be back in 2008, or ever again. Illegal and immoral campaign tactics like this aren’t just reprehensible: they also come at a cost to the party in the long run.
Leaving behind the triangulating, DLC politics of the Clintons, this crap leaves me with just one
Imagine if the democrats did the same thing to Republicans. HRC would be shocked! Shocked!
Maybe so, but if Hillary wins the nomination with a widespread belief that she cheated the African-American candidate, the Dems look to lose a lot of support in that usually reliable voting bloc.
With the field narrowed down to Hillary and Obama, things look tough for the Democratic party. If Obama is nominated, he is a major long-shot. An inexperienced African-American with a name that sounds too much like a cross between Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. He has a lot to overcome. We like to think that racism is all but gone in the US, but I think there are plenty who wouldn't vote for him simply on that basis. Add to that a level of experience probably the lowest in either party and you have major problems. A smile and charisma will only go so far. Oh yeah, he will have been so damaged by the Clinton attack squad that he'll have a hell of a time recovering. And I doubt he will have the services of the Clinton attack dogs either.
As for Hillary, nobody really likes her. She has amazing infighting skills, but I think she lacks in finesse. I don't think she'll be able to resist destroying Obama, and that could be her undoing. She has a decent chance of winning if she has solid support from the African American community. Without it, she is dead.
And I won’t send flowers! How about fire crackers in celebration!
You and everyone else better believe it. The “disenfranchised”, the lawyers AND THE JUDGES are all in line awaiting their marching orders. If she gets the nomination, this country will face an electoral bloodbath in November. Only a fool would believe that she is unelectable or easy to beat.
Looks like the only hope will be Dennis Kusinich. !! Yee Freakin' Haw!
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I printed this out a week ago..it is 45 pages long and well worth the read. When the MSM will really vet this guy is a good question..they won’t bettcha.The GOP better take a good long look at this however.
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