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Will the check be in the mail? ($800 per individual taxpayer?)
My Fox Tampa Bay ^ | 1/19/08

Posted on 01/19/2008 5:16:07 PM PST by Libloather

Will the check be in the mail?
Last Edited: Saturday, 19 Jan 2008, 1:47 PM EST

TAMPA - Cash can be like a jolt of caffeine to a national economy. In 2001, the federal government sent every income taxpayer a $300 rebate check. It ran up our debt, but also helped end our last recession.

Now President Bush and Congressional leaders want to try it again. This time they may send every income taxpayer a larger check. Economists say that could stimulate our economy again if recipients spend much of their rebates on products.

"Letting American people keep more of their own money should increase consumer spending," said President Bush. That could potentially pull us out of the credit and mortgage mess that's hurting the entire U.S. economy. For this to work, federal leaders need to act soon.

"A stimulus must be timely—if it comes too late, it can interfere with a recovery," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

President Bush also wants tax credits for small businesses that could entice them to expand and hire. Congress may also increase unemployment benefits, and increase food stamp allotments.

On the downside, big rebates can drive up debt and inflation over the long run, which takes money out of our pockets. But our government is focused on a temporary stimulus, to address the problems we have today.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: check; elections; mail; stimulus
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To: Libloather

This time they may send every income taxpayer a larger check.
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Looks discriminatory to me. Non taxpayers should be included if we’re really serious about spending our way out of trouble. Even illegals could help in this regard. They spend too, don’t they? /sarc


161 posted on 01/20/2008 4:48:34 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I’m starting an incandescent light bulb fund.

I'm nearing retirement and I think that I will supplement my income by smuggling light bulbs, transfats, cigarettes, etc.

162 posted on 01/20/2008 5:24:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Texas Songwriter
Those predictions look pretty bad. A small degree of skepticism is warranted as the guy making the predictions has a vested interest in selling his goods.
163 posted on 01/20/2008 5:33:17 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Libloather
Dang. What do you own - an 18 wheeler?

As close as you can get without being there.

164 posted on 01/20/2008 5:36:53 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Myrddin
It amounts to $448,000 for every living person in the United States.

Let's see, $448,000 times 300,000,000.

$134,400,000,000,000. $134 trillion.

Give Glenn a call. Perhaps he will double book you with his government expert to debunk his comments.

Or Glenn could use a calculator?

Like I said, Bullshit. At best, only half the equation.

165 posted on 01/20/2008 6:19:13 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The transcript of the interview is on Beck's site. Here is the link. A minor correction...he said $440,000 per HOUSEHOLD. Per the transcript that is only $53 trillion. He breaks that out as $34 trillion unfunded for Medicare, $7 trillion for social security plus the nation debt + other liabilities. The person interviewed was David Walker, comptroller of the United States.
166 posted on 01/20/2008 9:05:20 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin; Fan of Fiat
A minor correction...he said $440,000 per HOUSEHOLD.

Excellent! Much better.

Per the transcript that is only $53 trillion. He breaks that out as $34 trillion unfunded for Medicare, $7 trillion for social security plus the nation debt + other liabilities.

Now, for the other half of the equation. If you're going to count a liability for Medicare and Social Security, you need to count the asset to the recipient. I guess we're down to $12 trillion.

The person interviewed was David Walker, comptroller of the United States.

Yeah, he's a Clinton appointee. It's too bad that good people fall for his crap.

167 posted on 01/20/2008 9:20:42 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Normal4me
If they wanted to help this economy they would repeal the gasoline tax for a year or two

How bazaar is it that they want to add FORTY CENTS tax on a gallon of gas???

I agree with you.

They already steal most of the tax on gas now.

We're always asked on a local level to raise our city tax to pay for roads that our gas tax money is supposed to be for.

Instead it goes for Politician's pork.

Hot button issue for me

168 posted on 01/20/2008 9:26:28 PM PST by Syncro
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To: King_Corey

Truthfully, corporations do not pay taxes. Only individuals pay taxes. Corporations collect taxes from individuals who buy their products that have these corporate taxes embedded in the price of their products.


169 posted on 01/20/2008 9:56:02 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: Myrddin

Ouch, 3 degrees Farenheit.

That’s colder than here, and we just finished with 12 degree temperatures.


170 posted on 01/20/2008 11:49:30 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Republicans are just Socialism-lite.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

I STRONGLY disagree. That would be telling them its ok for them to be here and not pay taxes. If you dont pay taxes you dont get the money at all


171 posted on 01/21/2008 2:31:07 AM PST by rwalker200
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To: rwalker200

I STRONGLY disagree.
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/sarc at the end of a post means the post was sarcasm.


172 posted on 01/21/2008 7:18:11 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Myrddin

The man Glenn had on was the head of the GAO - the person who knows the funded and unfunded liabilities of the Federal government better than any other person alive today.

And I believe the figure was $448000 per household - about $62 trillion in unfunded liabilities alone.


173 posted on 01/21/2008 7:55:47 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Libloather
In 2001, the federal government sent every income taxpayer a $300 rebate check.

I didn't get one. The government decided I made too much money to deserve some of it back. I suspect the same will happen with this one.

174 posted on 01/21/2008 7:58:00 AM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Libloather
Take Your $800 and Shove It!

Memo to president Bush, Congress, and all the economic “experts” who’ve decided how government can “save” our economy: take your $800 rebate and shove it!

Anyone with half a brain knows what’s wrong with our economy: government spending has expanded far beyond anything resembling fiscal sanity. Every other entity which operates on the basis of money coming in versus money going out is constrained by one immutable reality: if the latter exceeds the former, sooner or later you go bankrupt.

Our political class, however, adheres to completely different “principles:” 1. government NEVER shrinks, it only expands at differing rates; 2. if that rate is less than we think we’re entitled to, we call it a “cut;” 3. we will spend whatever we want, irrespective of the funds actually available; 4. we will make “promises,” aka Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security that will become impossible to keep; 5. we will never go bankrupt because we can print money–even if that money becomes next to worthless. 6. we will never plan for the long term because getting re-elected enshrines short-term thinking.

Don’t think for a minute these bums don’t know how to really fix the economy. It’s just that doing something for the good of the country doesn’t remotely compare with doing something good for themselves.

And Americans are furious with government for precisely that reason. What we see is a bunch of self-serving fat cats whose first commandment is “do as I say, not as I do.” Have to be responsible with money? We don’t. Have to prepare for your future? We don’t. We can run this country right into the ground and every single one of us will still be sitting pretty. Have to do without when times are tough? Not us. There’s no such thing as tough times when you’re spending other peoples’ money–and racking up nine trillion bucks of IOUs in the process.

The public’s anger, however, is largely worthless—and we have no one but ourselves to blame. See if this sounds familiar: all those other Congressmen stink, but I’m going to re-elect mine because he “brings home the bacon.” And you wonder why most of these folks get the sense they’re bullet-proof?

Congress won’t put the interests of the country before their own until the American public makes it clear they can’t be bought off with a “bridge to nowhere,” a “museum commemorating Woodstock,” or any other “goodies” whose principle aim is to buy your vote–one earmark after another.

Aren’t you tired of being a sucker? Or is eight hundred bucks enough to buy you off–again?

175 posted on 01/21/2008 8:01:06 AM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Kakaze
Anybody else feel a bit insulted and manipulated....all for 800 bucks?

I certainly do. Because it sure is amazing that this "stimulus" just happens to be in a major election year, isn't it?

176 posted on 01/21/2008 8:04:44 AM PST by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: cinives
And I believe the figure was $448000 per household - about $62 trillion in unfunded liabilities alone.

Unfunded liabilities are different than debt.

Why didn't he mention the assets?

177 posted on 01/21/2008 8:07:35 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Libloather

The gubmint giving me back some of my money...How nice of them.


178 posted on 01/21/2008 8:12:54 AM PST by opus86
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To: gogogodzilla
It's 2 PM and +10 F. Blue skies and sunshine...somewhat deceiving. The current wind chill is -4 F. The dewpoint is -5 F. We're expecting to drop to zero this evening. No new snow in the forecast until Thursday. What's on the ground isn't going anywhere. I would love to go out to the range today, but I'm not certain it would be very enjoyable at the current temps and wind speeds. Navigating the slick ice on the road to the range is no party either.
179 posted on 01/21/2008 1:04:24 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Non-Sequitur

Good idea....I haven’t thought of that one :) SARCASM


180 posted on 01/22/2008 6:50:31 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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