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The secret undersea weapon(India's nuclear submarine)
India Today ^ | January 17, 2008 | Sandeep Unnithan

Posted on 01/18/2008 10:17:50 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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Atv Project Sites

Like pieces of a complex jigsaw puzzle, ATV project sites are scattered across the country.

Kalpakkam

Indira Gandhi Atomic Research Centre near Chennai fabricates ATV’s light water nuclear reactor. Visakhapatnam

ATV production line at the Ship Building Centre. School of Advanced Underwater Warfare (SAUV) for training ATV crews.

Indigenously developed control room simulator.

Evolution of strategic submarine operational doctrines.

Rambilli

Strategic submarine base south of Vizag will be commissioned by 2011.

Delhi

ATV project headquarters.

Ratnahalli

Rare Materials Project near Mysore supplies enriched uranium for ATV reactor.

Hyderabad

Sagarika complex is fabricating and developing SLBM. Project began in 1994.

Balasore

Special underwater launch test platform for test-firing ATV’s missile.

Kochi

Naval Physical and Oceanographic Laboratory developing ATV sensors.

1 posted on 01/18/2008 10:17:55 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

what, a nuclear slingshot?


2 posted on 01/18/2008 10:18:58 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Artist's impression- Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

3 posted on 01/18/2008 10:23:30 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
No offense, but this has taken 37 years to get built and it's still not finished? I trust this is only because Indian engineers and naval architects are absolute sticklers for detail.

Also, I doubt China will be very happy about this boat going to sea as, quite obviously, they're the logical reason for this boat to be built in the first place.

4 posted on 01/18/2008 10:31:24 PM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: PeterFinn

37 years for the whole programme.Don’t expect the sub & it’s design to be that old.Firstly,I think work on a design itself started in the late 80s after India leased a Soviet boat..I believe atleast 3 design variants,starting from a copy of the old Soviet Charlie-II to a smaller indegnious design in the mid 90s were evaluated.From the looks of the artist impression(by no means definitive),it seems to borrow a bit from the Russian Akula class submarine.


5 posted on 01/18/2008 10:36:31 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: PeterFinn

No matter how good your engineers/architects,if the policy makers & strategists don’t know what they want,you will never get there.


6 posted on 01/18/2008 10:37:24 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Amen to that.


7 posted on 01/18/2008 10:48:48 PM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Not bad, I hope it will be upgraded to reach Shanghai someday to give the Chicoms a “hello”.


8 posted on 01/18/2008 11:15:52 PM PST by Wiz
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To: sukhoi-30mki

37 years to build that? What an achievement.

...We’d better look out because they might get to the moon first.


9 posted on 01/19/2008 12:00:54 AM PST by max americana
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About 25 years of which were spent on debating whether an N-sub was required in the first place.


10 posted on 01/19/2008 12:13:22 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Jeff Head
At 6,000-tons, this sub will be pretty small when compared to US Ohio-class boomers, much less the Russian Typhoons and Delta IV's, but she will still pack one heck of a punch with her twelve missiles, each of which will carry up to eight warheads.

It will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the new Chinese SSBN's that have been coming out in the past couple of years.

11 posted on 01/19/2008 12:19:01 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Wiz

>>>Not bad, I hope it will be upgraded to reach Shanghai someday to give the Chicoms a “hello”.<<<

I hope so. OR the Indian Navy will help the Chicoms screw us here.

I wonder if the Indians allow cows on their subs as well?


12 posted on 01/19/2008 12:43:41 AM PST by max americana
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To: sukhoi-30mki
About 25 years of which were spent on debating whether an N-sub was required in the first place.

And the answer was yes. Without SSBNs, a nuclear deterrent has no credibility unless you want to either move missiles periodically on trucks and trains or keep airplanes with nukes in the air 24/7. The problem is that SSBNs are extraordinarily expensive to build and maintain. And you have to build them quiet so that they aren't followed. Good luck to India on the endeavor. I just hope they have the security procedures in place to prevent this technology from leaking to Pakistan. The last thing the world needs is for Pakistan to have the technology to build a blue water sub that can deploy nuclear weapons around the world.

13 posted on 01/19/2008 12:53:17 AM PST by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Located up the winding shipping channel in Visakhapatnam harbour is a secret, completely enclosed facility known only as the Shipbuilding Centre (SBC).

Inside this dry dock, nearly 50m below ground level, is a cylindrical black shape, which is as tall as a two-storey building and at 104 m in length, is longer than the Qutub Minar lying on its side.

Okay, we have a secret facility, code word shipbuilding center.  They sure know how to play coy top secret disinformation really well.

Okay, "Which is as tall as a two-storey building..."  Ah that's 20 feet, not exactly impressive.  Why not just say 20 feet tall?

I'm just nit picking.  Between the hours of 1:00am and 2:00am I nit pick.

Heh heh heh...

14 posted on 01/19/2008 1:09:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I doubt it will be as stealthy as the American, or even the aging Russian, boats. But for a submarine, going nuclear is a quantum leap; with a diesel-electric, you have to run on top every day or two to recharge the batteries.

WIth a reactor on board, you can stay underwater until you run out of food for the crew. You won't run out of motive power, or air, or drinking water before you run out of food. You can literally stay submerged for months without surfacing once.

I'm not terribly afraid of India. In fact, I think they're a natural ally -- they're threatened by China more immediately than we are. And if they can carry more of the freight for patrolling the Indian Ocean and the southwestern Pacific, more power to 'em.

But on the other hand, another country with boomers means more targets to track that aren't easy to track, and as we've learned from bitter experience, many times at great cost, yesterday's friends aren't always tomorrow's.

15 posted on 01/19/2008 1:13:13 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: burzum

Umm,should the Pakis need nuke-capable subs,the Chicoms shall hand it over to them.Like they have always done by handing over nuke warhead designs,ballistic & cruise missiles.

Pakistan has built atleast 2 French Agosta-90B class subs under license,which can fire the French Exocet & US Harpoon(Pakistan signed up for 50 more).These are equipped with AIP modules to enhance endurance considerably,while still being far cheaper than an N-boat.The Pakis reportedly plan to modify those ships to fire their Babur/Hatf-7 cruise missiles-about as effective as a boomer by their standards & far more cost-effective.

About the Indian boat-firstly,this is just an article.Most resources on India’s sub based missile programme are not sure whether it will carry cruise or ballistic weapons-so we will have to wait & watch.


16 posted on 01/19/2008 1:53:39 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: ReignOfError

It just needs enough stealth to prevent detection by Chinese vessels.


17 posted on 01/19/2008 1:54:18 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It just needs enough stealth to prevent detection by Chinese vessels.

If so, if it is not evading our detection, then it is not a threat to us. Just to them. Im cool with that.

18 posted on 01/19/2008 2:07:29 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Does this sub come equipped with outside handrails for extra passengers to hang onto when it goes out to sea?


19 posted on 01/19/2008 2:14:19 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
That’s just great! Now the snake charmers have a nuclear powered boomer; and I guess the rag heads will have to have one too!

I only hope this country has enough common sense to not get between these two when they decide to nuke it out!

20 posted on 01/19/2008 2:35:42 AM PST by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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