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Michigan County Coordinator For Ron Paul Is Ku Klux Klan Organizer
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Posted on 01/18/2008 11:56:43 AM PST by SJackson

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To: jmc813
LOL, I don't know if we can make the connection, but I can't dismiss it outright. I think it's more to blame on poor education, a penchant for text message shorthand (yes, I know I used it at the start of this post) and just plain old laziness on the part of the writer to get it right.

Or maybe you're on to something...

41 posted on 01/18/2008 12:30:09 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: SJackson
Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. - Ron Paul

Why that racist bastard!!1!1

42 posted on 01/18/2008 12:30:22 PM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: SJackson
Here's a question for you, SJ:

Why is it that when Ron Paul is questioned over his newsletter comments it is "playing the race card" - but when Ron Paul publishes a newsletter designed to play upon racial prejudice against black people it isn't "playing the race card"?

A fascinating double standard.

43 posted on 01/18/2008 12:30:45 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Maybe Paul is thinking like McNut, trying to lure in some democrats.

Democrats and other anti-Americans are the ONLY ones who would vote for him.
44 posted on 01/18/2008 12:32:36 PM PST by John D
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To: odin219
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45 posted on 01/18/2008 12:34:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: SJackson

I met a Hispanic I suspect of being an illegal alien, who has resided here a number of years, who is emphatic that Obama is the only candidate who supports Hispanics.

I still don’t think Obama loves and shares all Hispanic values.

Likewise, just because some lunatic fringe group supports a particular candidate, it doesn’t mean the candidate is lunatic fringe.

In the case of Ron Paul, who I probably will not support, I do recognize his strong libertarian convictions and adamant devotion to voting to his truest beliefs. He might be wrong on a number of issues, but he does remain consistent in that voting position. There’s something to be said for that with respect to his character, which is more than many other candidates have going for them.

I disagree with him over issues like taxes for fire departments, which he used to oppose, based purely on libertarian perspectives of the role of government. I tend to be “socialist” in believing some issues are best administered through centralized governmental control,...such as fire departments and how they are funded, but IMHO, that hardly qualifies me as a “socialist”.

IMHO, Groups like the KKK and other lunatic fringe labeled groups tend to like Ron Paul explicitly because he does vote his conviction and not due to popular argument or to swing back and forth on issues just to appease one group at a time. That type of conviction to voting according to his beliefs and not cowering before the crowd, IMHO, is what attracts folks like the KKK or other lunatic fringe to Ron Paul. It doesn’t, though, qualify Ron Paul as lunatic fringe.


46 posted on 01/18/2008 12:35:37 PM PST by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: ksen
Talking the talk.

When it comes to walking the walk, he accepts support and contributions from the hate community. After all, he's pandered to them for years, why reject them now.

47 posted on 01/18/2008 12:36:21 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: Khepri

That’s excellent. I’m going to have to learn how to post pictures like that so I can have some fun.


48 posted on 01/18/2008 12:37:54 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: SJackson
After all, he's pandered to them for years, why reject them now.

How exactly has he "pandered" to them, Reverend?

49 posted on 01/18/2008 12:39:44 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: Pablo64

Yeah, from reading on down the thread, the illiteracy displayed seems to represent this candidacy, and the cause of so-called libertarians, as going down the drain. One would start to think that libertarians were nothing but a bunch of dopers, racists, and haters.


50 posted on 01/18/2008 12:41:29 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pablo64
That’s excellent. I’m going to have to learn how to post pictures like that so I can have some fun.

How 'bout this one...


51 posted on 01/18/2008 12:41:32 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: SJackson

Randy Gray, the Midland County, Michigan coordinator for the Ron Paul campaign is also a longstanding active and vocal organizer for the Knight’s Party faction of the Ku Klux Klan.


So now we’re against freedom of association?????

(sarcasm)


52 posted on 01/18/2008 12:42:32 PM PST by Grunthor (No Juan. No Huckaliar. Not primary, not general, not ever.)
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To: Cvengr
IMHO, Groups like the KKK and other lunatic fringe labeled groups tend to like Ron Paul explicitly because he does vote his conviction and not due to popular argument or to swing back and forth on issues just to appease one group at a time. That type of conviction to voting according to his beliefs and not cowering before the crowd, IMHO, is what attracts folks like the KKK or other lunatic fringe to Ron Paul. It doesn’t, though, qualify Ron Paul as lunatic fringe.

There's also the fact that for decades he's moved amongst them, through his newsletters, his column in American Free Press and the Council of Conservative Citizens publication, appearance on affiliated radio, speaking engagements with secession groups etc. The name "Ron Paul" didn't just pop out of the blue in 2008, these people knew him for years. Same with the truther movement. Whether he's in agreement with their views is largely irrelevant, they're a welcome part of his "revolution", along with the newsletter fiasco an example of executive level misconduct which disqualifies one from high office. Heck, the newsletter thing would have gotten him fired by any non-hate organization that sponsored it. Imagine "I didn't know" as an excuse for years of rascist commentary in a middle school paper.

53 posted on 01/18/2008 12:42:32 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: ichabod1
Yeah, from reading on down the thread, the illiteracy displayed seems to represent this candidacy, and the cause of so-called libertarians, as going down the drain.

If you're going to post about someone's intelligence, double check your commas, genius.

54 posted on 01/18/2008 12:42:42 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: KDD
Ron is carrying over a 70% approval rating in his district.

After those 70% learn more of the real truth about Ron Paul, he will lose his seat..................

55 posted on 01/18/2008 12:42:53 PM PST by AwesomePossum
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To: SJackson

The media has quite an insurance policy against Ron Paul. They’ll eat him alive when the time comes.


56 posted on 01/18/2008 12:45:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Grunthor
Randy Gray, the Midland County, Michigan coordinator for the Ron Paul campaign

He's not the "Michigan coordinator of the Ron Paul campaign". If he was, don't you think the media would be all over it? The only places this is getting traction is on the Daily Kos, New Republic, and a handful of freepers who enjoy race-baiting.

57 posted on 01/18/2008 12:46:19 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: cripplecreek
The media has quite an insurance policy against Ron Paul. They’ll eat him alive when the time comes.

The time may not come, he's wacky enought that I don't think they can get away with hanging him on the GOP.

58 posted on 01/18/2008 12:48:22 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: ichabod1

It’s too bad that so many libertarians seem to carry things too far (in my opinion). I actually feel that some of my own beliefs and opinions are libertarian, but I don’t feel like I can call myself one since I’m not on board for everything. There are many (libertarians) who actually border on being anarchists if you believe what they’re saying, and I just can’t go there.


59 posted on 01/18/2008 12:54:09 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: jmc813
LOL! Yes, that's what I mean.

One of these days when I have a little extra time (maybe after football season and before NASCAR season) I'll put a little time in at html bootcamp and learn a few new tricks.

60 posted on 01/18/2008 12:56:02 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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