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Barack Obama: I'm no Muslim
Times Online ^ | January 16, 2008 | Tim Reid

Posted on 01/17/2008 8:51:46 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn

Barack Obama was directly confronted on prime time television last night over allegations swirling around the internet that he is a secret Muslim who worships the Koran, during a Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas.

Mr Obama, who was raised as a Christian by his white mother despite his Kenyan father being Muslim, has been dogged by smears and innuendo for months that he is in fact an Islamist trying to enter the Oval office by stealth.

"Let's make clear what the facts are: I am a Christian. I have been sworn in with a Bible. I pledge allegiance [to the American flag] and lead the pledge of allegiance sometimes in the United States Senate when I'm presiding."

Mr Obama is a member of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ and is an actively practising Christian. But opponents, particularly on the Republican side, delight in reminding people that his middle name is Hussein, taken from his father, a Harvard educated economist who left the family when Mr Obama was two

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: denial; elections; husseinobama; islam; obama; taquiyya; ucc
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Obama's answer is nothing short of bizarre. He clearly appears to believe the fact that he "pledges allegiance to the flag" is somehow evidence relevant to proving his claim that he is a Christian and not a Muslim. Can anyone explain this?
1 posted on 01/17/2008 8:51:47 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I think it’s just cute that the Times is so worried about poor little Obama’s reputation. Have they ever run articles refuting the lies spread by the media about George Bush?


2 posted on 01/17/2008 8:54:17 PM PST by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

And Keith Ellison’s opinion is?...


3 posted on 01/17/2008 8:54:28 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Yeah ... here's a picture of Obamanation saluting the flag ...


4 posted on 01/17/2008 8:55:54 PM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
...Can anyone explain this?

What he means is he has no allegiance to Islam nor to Christ, he is a humanist! Even his church is all about a social gospel, not about redemption or the Lordship of Christ over ethics. Christian to Obama means political western affiliation, he has the audacity to hope it wont matter.

5 posted on 01/17/2008 8:56:19 PM PST by DaveyB (Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I don't think it’s odd. He said just before that he was a Christian. He may have used the pledge as part of his answer because of the “one Nation under God” thing. I don't know, it just doesn't seem that odd.

The idea the Obama is a Muslim is a Clinton lie. Just about that simple.

6 posted on 01/17/2008 8:56:25 PM PST by chaos_5 (Fred & Hunter '08)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
He’s asserting that being a good Muslim and a loyal American are mutually exclusive...

Let’s see what CIAR has to say about that. Haha, what a mess over in the Dem primary - it’s men v. women, blacks v. whites, and now Christians v. Muslims.

Divide & Conquer!

7 posted on 01/17/2008 8:58:14 PM PST by americanophile
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To: clamper1797

I’m gonna have to give Obama a pass on this one. Maybe both his arms were broke and he was wearing invisible casts.


8 posted on 01/17/2008 9:01:35 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Can anyone explain this?

Of course. He is merely responding to the new force in US politics...

FReepers :)

9 posted on 01/17/2008 9:01:54 PM PST by Nachum
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Isn’t the Times owned by Rupert Murdoch now? He is backing Hillary and this might be part of his scheme to get her elected.


10 posted on 01/17/2008 9:03:59 PM PST by FFranco
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

“Obama’s answer is nothing short of bizarre. He clearly appears to believe the fact that he “pledges allegiance to the flag” is somehow evidence relevant to proving his claim that he is a Christian and not a Muslim. Can anyone explain this?”

It would have made more sense if the article had referenced the actual question, which was along the lines of “there are lots of rumors circulating about you - that you’re a muslim, that you were sworn in on the Koran, that you refuse to pledge allegience to the flag blah blah blah”


11 posted on 01/17/2008 9:04:49 PM PST by COgamer
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To: clamper1797

I think he just forgot about the hand-over-the-heart practice in the flag picture. If he’d been behind the others he would have realized his mistake.


12 posted on 01/17/2008 9:05:41 PM PST by madison10
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To: clamper1797

Thank you - that pic was the first thing I thot of when reading this BS.


13 posted on 01/17/2008 9:06:33 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: clamper1797


Democrat Russian nesting dolls?
14 posted on 01/17/2008 9:07:35 PM PST by Rastus
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Maybe Hussein’s OTHER middle name is Taquiyya

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=taquiyya


15 posted on 01/17/2008 9:08:21 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Bobibutu

None of this matters.. Vote the issues, not whether he worships the Son of Man or a moon rock, and on the issues he is dead wrong...


16 posted on 01/17/2008 9:09:31 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
FRom Obama's church's website:

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community."

I'm just imagining a Republican candidate whose church "constantly affirms our trust in God through cultural expression of a white worship service and ministries which address the White Community."

17 posted on 01/17/2008 9:09:40 PM PST by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Wikipedia:

“The word “al-Taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of imminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.”

“A one-word translation would be “Dissimulation.”

Dissimulate:

v.tr.
To disguise (one’s intentions, for example) under a feigned appearance. See synonyms at disguise.

v.intr.
To conceal one’s true feelings or intentions.


18 posted on 01/17/2008 9:11:10 PM PST by LucyT
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To: madison10

Yeah ... a presidential candidate “forget” proper flag saluting protocol .... sure. anyway he said he didn’t forget when asked about it. The guy is anti-American plan and simple ... and so is ANY asshat that would consider voting for him IMHO


19 posted on 01/17/2008 9:12:55 PM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Obama is bizzare! He’s a globalist and wants the borders to be even more open than they are already.


20 posted on 01/17/2008 9:15:22 PM PST by CalifChris
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