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Seven million patients can't find a dentist on the NHS for two years
Daily Mail ^ | January 16, 2008 | JENNY HOPE

Posted on 01/17/2008 10:03:19 AM PST by bamahead

More than seven million patients have been unable to see an NHS dentist for almost two years.

Most of those denied access have paid for private care instead, says Citizens Advice.

But almost three million have gone without treatment altogether, claims the charity.

The figure includes thousands of children and is much higher than Government estimates.

The charity is calling today for Primary Care Trusts, the bodies responsible for dentistry in England and Wales, to step up funding to improve care for NHS patients.

It cited the case of a low-income pensioner given emergency dental treatment in a hospital in North Yorkshire then told to get further treatment from one of two local NHS dentists - both of whom have 12-month waiting lists.

The charity's survey of 1,800 people, carried out by Ipsos MORI, found that lack of access was the most common reason for not seeing an NHS dentist, along with not needing treatment.

It was mentioned by one in three of those who had not seen an NHS dentist since April 2006.

Citizens Advice said the findings suggested 7.4million people had tried and failed to see an NHS dentist, with around 4.7million seeking private care instead and 2.7 million going without treatment altogether.

The worst problem areas were the South West and the North West.

Citizens Advice chief executive David Harker said: "These figures show the scale of the lack of access to NHS dentistry.

"People on low incomes are particularly affected as private treatment is just not an option."

A recent report by the Information Centre for Health and Social Care found one in three children are not seeing an NHS dentist.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: badteeth; healthcare; hillarycare; nhs; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 01/17/2008 10:03:20 AM PST by bamahead
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To: bamahead

LOL! I thought they paid good money for smiles like that!


2 posted on 01/17/2008 10:11:05 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Lawyer Jay Grodner stands accused of keying a Marine's car because he hates the military.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Having seen a lot more snaggle toothed cashiers lately, I’m not sure dental care is as good in the USA as it used to be.


3 posted on 01/17/2008 10:16:51 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: bamahead

Just a foretaste of what the idiot Democrats have planned for us with their wonderful healthcare ideas.


4 posted on 01/17/2008 10:19:17 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

How ironic — private charity to the rescue of failed Government.


5 posted on 01/17/2008 10:20:31 AM PST by PGR88
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To: pierrem15

Well...as an American capitalist, it seems like there is fertile ground for an upswing of folks in British dental schools. Does the NHS limit the number of folks who can attend dental school? Does the NHS pay dentists too little so there is no incentive to go to dental school?

Don’t know enough about the system to understand why a simple solution, like more dental students and graduating more dentists, won’t solve this problem in the next 2-3 years....


6 posted on 01/17/2008 10:21:20 AM PST by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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To: bamahead
We usually air drop these into Africa, but our Brit friends might need them more:


7 posted on 01/17/2008 10:38:44 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: VeniVidiVici
Just when did having to have insurance for teeth happen? Who decreed you can't have dental care without some insurance? We still don't have it and our dentist makes amends. Insurance is over the top - 85% of what is costing health care to climb out of sight mostly because of Hillary Care when "some" said various parts of her package were LAW.

A nation of Dopes? This article is specious - a ploy for socialized medicine.....don't fall for it. Having insurance is not yet law - only the propaganda is and the misinformed.

8 posted on 01/17/2008 10:46:33 AM PST by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: yoe
Just when did having to have insurance for teeth happen?

Not only that, but dental insurance is backwards from what insurance should be. Mine pays 100% of cleaning, 80% - a deductible for fillings and nothing on major work like braces or dentures. That would be like car insurance paying in full for oil changes, partially for wreck damage and nothing if your car is totaled and has to be replaced.

9 posted on 01/17/2008 11:00:29 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: bamahead
English Teeth, English Teeth!
Shining in the sun
A part of British heritage
Aye, each and every one.

English Teeth, Happy Teeth!
Always having fun
Champing down on bits of fish
And sausages half done.

English Teeth, HEROES' Teeth!
Here them click! and clack!
Let's sing a song of praise to them -
Three Cheers for the Brown Grey and Black.

-- Spike Milligan

10 posted on 01/17/2008 11:09:34 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: yoe

>>This article is specious - a ploy for socialized medicine <<

It’s also an excerpt, and I forogot to check the box indicating so. (oops) But I think it makes a case against socialized medicine more than it does for.

Britian’s problem is that they keep looking for ways to fix their system rather than ways to scrap it all together and return to a totally free market system.


11 posted on 01/17/2008 11:12:56 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I love it! :)


12 posted on 01/17/2008 11:14:01 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

Single payer health plan. Cut the supply and you cut the cost.


13 posted on 01/17/2008 11:19:41 AM PST by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: bamahead
12-month waiting lists????? Holly Molly

My Father in-Law is a Dentist and he almost always has holes in his schedule 3 or 4 days out. He finds most people want the prime hours of the day so it does not impact the rest of their schedule, so there are some hours of the day that are harder to fill. Then you have ones that cancel at the last minute, too late to fill the hour with some one else. Many in his field resort to offering free teeth cleanings or other perks just to get people in.

He has said a 2-day schedule he will have to let staff go, a two week schedule is healthy, 2 months filled and he is he’s going to loose patients to other Doctors.
12-months???? now that is broke.

14 posted on 01/17/2008 11:29:51 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: beethovenfan
This is just crazy -

1) quit waiting

2) stop paying your insurance bills and save that money to

3) pay for your own dental work

15 posted on 01/17/2008 11:42:18 AM PST by Chili Girl
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To: AnAmericanMother

ROFLMAO! I’d love to hear it sung!


16 posted on 01/17/2008 11:42:18 AM PST by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: mrsmel

Spike Milligan, God rest his soul, died recently. I’m not sure anybody else can do it justice . . . .


17 posted on 01/17/2008 11:44:22 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: bamahead

They have dentists in the UK????? ;^)


18 posted on 01/17/2008 11:46:15 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: duckbutt
Don’t know enough about the system to understand why a simple solution, like more dental students and graduating more dentists, won’t solve this problem in the next 2-3 years....

It's due to the restrictions on their income. A socialized system like NHS limits the income of a dentist to an arbitrary amount, since it is paid by the government.

If, for the sake of argument, their income is limited to $45,000 a year, there would naturally be very little interest from most people to become dentists for the NHS.

19 posted on 01/17/2008 11:47:31 AM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: bamahead
Not to worry.

HillaryCare will not repeat the mistakes the Brits (and every other Socialist regime) made in implementing free health care for everybody. After all, health is to important for anyone to be required to pay for it. And since it is free, we might as well get all we can while the getting is good.

20 posted on 01/17/2008 11:49:47 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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