Posted on 01/17/2008 8:16:50 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
SAN JOSE, California (AP) -- San Francisco police searched the car and cell phones of two brothers mauled by a zoo tiger, but haven't said if they found any evidence that the men provoked the animal, which killed their friend.
Tatiana, a 350-pound Siberian tiger, killed one young man and injured two others before being killed.
Sgt. Neville Gittens, a police spokesman, said Wednesday that officers were executing a search warrant, but that they would not announce their findings immediately because the investigation remains open.
As police looked through the phones and car belonging to Paul Dhaliwal, 19, and Kulbir Dhaliwal, 24, the city attorney's office and San Francisco Zoo officials went to Santa Clara Superior Court to gain their own access.
Judge Socrates Manoukian said he would not announce any decisions until Friday.
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No use inflaming the potential jury pool any more than necessary at this point.
Did you say the same thing during the Duke lacrosse investigation????
If they were able to obtain a search warrant, I suspect they had at least one witness statement to that effect.
There was a woman who saw them taunting the tiger.
If Geragos is involved, everything will be slimed. Get your waders out, Geragos is on the loose.
The investigation does not necessarily have to be solely an investigation of the mauled individuals.
The police could be looking at potnetial criminal charges against zoo officials and potential criminal charges against the mauled individuals.
Since someone is dead, probable cause exists, with or without witness statements.
And another who saw them taunting the lions, or are you talking about the same witness? In any event, glad they’re looking into this. Some here insist these were angelic innocents, some think not so much—some actual evidence might resolve the issue.
The tiger is dead. It no longer exists. Prayers cannot help it.
So you don’t say prayers when a relative dies?
Fair enough, and certainly possible. I’m basing my assumption solely on the youth’s reluctance to cooperate up to this point.
Re: Prayers cannot help it.
Some might say the same of the perps.
Sure. And she was singing “Let’s talk dirty to the animals...”
No, in the Duke case, the circumstances were very suspect, charges were politically motivated and the evidence was flimsy — turns out I was wrong, it was totally non existent.
In the tiger case, “something” got that cat to jump out of its cage, and evidence found such as blood and a shoe inside the primary barrier indicates duh yutes surviving know more than they are telling.
I suspect the cops know it too.
You are aware that human beings and animals are different, I hope.
Deceased human beings have immortal souls that can be aided by prayer, and human beings need the aid of prayer because they have free will and are therefore accountable for their actions.
Animals do not have immortal souls and even if they did have immortal souls, animals do not have free will and are not accountable for their actions, so no prayer could possibly aid them.
They might say it, but they would still be wrong.
I'm basing my assumption on the following:
Three young men. (That's what young men do.)
Just at closing time. (fewer other visitors, and less chance of being seen)
Tiger had not jumped out of its enclosure for three years.
Tiger went after only those three young men, and nobody else.
The two survivors were extremely reticent. (Uncooperative with police, for those of you in Rio Linda)
The two surviors immediately hire a well-known DEFENSE attorney.
My first thought was; "they were taunting the tiger".
Only in America would you get a list of names like this:
Sgt. Neville Gittens
Paul Dhaliwal
Kulbir Dhaliwal
Judge Socrates Manoukian
Carlos Sousa Jr.
Deputy City Attorney Sean Connolly
Shepard Kopp
Mark Geragos
and Tatiana the Tiger
Quite a caste of characters.
Obviously you’re not a pet owner. I’ve prayed for my pets over the years, and I happen to believe it helped. NOT for their souls, but for relief of pain, etc., when they were ill.
Ah, but I am.
I’ve prayed for my pets over the years, and I happen to believe it helped.
As have I and I also believe prayer helped.
NOT for their souls, but for relief of pain, etc., when they were ill.
That's exactly my point.
Once your pet is gone, what remains are your memories. There is no more pet to pray for.
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