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This may have some interesting results considering how much Rockwell has been doing for Paul's campaign.
1 posted on 01/16/2008 6:40:19 AM PST by mnehring
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To: SJackson

ping


2 posted on 01/16/2008 6:40:43 AM PST by mnehring
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Was Paul listed as the editor or publisher of the newsletter? If so, except for ‘Letters to the Editor’, he’s as responsible for the contents as the writers are.


3 posted on 01/16/2008 6:46:59 AM PST by Bob
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To: mnehrling

The good doctor it seems has a Frankenstein monster out there and it might be killing some peasants. Que the lightning and the sinister laboratory!


4 posted on 01/16/2008 6:47:56 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: mnehrling
Rockwell and the prominent libertarian theorist Murray Rothbard championed an open strategy of exploiting racial and class resentment to build a coalition with populist "paleoconservatives,"

"Paleoconservative libertarianism" is a horrible oxymoron, and Cindy Sheehan's boyfriend Lew Rockwell is revealed as an even worse person than we knew him to be.

8 posted on 01/16/2008 6:56:43 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: mnehrling

30 posted on 01/16/2008 7:42:32 AM PST by Allegra (The midget hates it when I do that.)
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To: mnehrling
"Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks"

Notwithstanding the fact that this might have been true, you can't write something like this in this day and age. Has anyone checked on the veracity of the comment?

32 posted on 01/16/2008 7:50:47 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: mnehrling

If you need to chase someone off the PC plantation John Derbyshire defends Paul at an unmentionable web site. Maybe you can chase Derbyshire off of NR and purify the ideology.


33 posted on 01/16/2008 7:53:55 AM PST by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: mnehrling
I only see three possible scenarios with this entire issue:
Either:
1). Mr. Paul was unaware of the egregious behavior being done repeatedly in his name, pointing to a serious lack of ability to manage and oversee even those closest to him in his organization, and is thus unqualified for office.
(or)
2). Mr. Paul was aware of the idiocy being propagated in his name, but wanted plausible deniability at the time, so he allowed this garbage to be written for him so he wouldn't have to get his own hands dirty while garnering the support of those who this sort of thing speaks to. This would point to a serious lack of ethics, and an inability to take any responsibility for himself; qualities that immediately disqualify him for the highest office in the land.
(or)
3). Mr. Paul wrote the newsletters himself, is (or was) the person they portray, and is now trying to pass his own idiocy off on someone else at this late date. This would be shameful and wrong on so many levels and would immediately disqualify him for higher office.

So, which is it? I have yet to hear anything from a Paul supporter that shows how he could possibly be clean in this dirty mess.

36 posted on 01/16/2008 8:01:43 AM PST by mountainbunny
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To: mnehrling
The most interesting part of the article. Clearly this was part of an electoral strategy which didn't work. Paul lost in 1988, the nation decided it didn't need to choose between Buchanan and Duke, so they tried again, sans the racism.

Rockwell explained the thrust of the idea in a 1990 Liberty essay entitled "The Case for Paleo-Libertarianism." To Rockwell, the LP was a "party of the stoned," a halfway house for libertines that had to be "de-loused." To grow, the movement had to embrace older conservative values. "State-enforced segregation," Rockwell wrote, "was wrong, but so is State-enforced integration. State-enforced segregation was not wrong because separateness is wrong, however. Wishing to associate with members of one's own race, nationality, religion, class, sex, or even political party is a natural and normal human impulse."

The most detailed description of the strategy came in an essay Rothbard wrote for the January 1992 Rothbard-Rockwell Report, titled "Right-Wing Populism: A Strategy for the Paleo Movement." Lamenting that mainstream intellectuals and opinion leaders were too invested in the status quo to be brought around to a libertarian view, Rothbard pointed to David Duke and Joseph McCarthy as models for an "Outreach to the Rednecks," which would fashion a broad libertarian/paleoconservative coalition by targeting the disaffected working and middle classes. (Duke, a former Klansman, was discussed in strikingly similar terms in a 1990 Ron Paul Political Report.) These groups could be mobilized to oppose an expansive state, Rothbard posited, by exposing an "unholy alliance of 'corporate liberal' Big Business and media elites, who, through big government, have privileged and caused to rise up a parasitic Underclass, who, among them all, are looting and oppressing the bulk of the middle and working classes in America."

Anyone with doubts about the composition of the "parasitic Underclass" could look to the regular "PC Watch" feature of the Report, in which Rockwell compiled tale after tale of thuggish black men terrifying petite white and Asian women. (Think Birth of a Nation crossed with News of the Weird.) The list of PC outrages in the February 1993 issue, for example, cited a Washington Post column on films that feature "plenty of interracial sex, and nobody noticing," a news article about black members of the Southern Methodist University marching band "engaged in mass shoplifting while in Japan," and a sob story about a Korean shop-owner who shot a black shoplifter and assailant in the head: "The travesty is that Mrs. Du got five years probation, and must cancel a trip to Korea."

The populist outreach program centered on tax reduction, abolition of welfare, elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure, which tramples on the property rights of every American," and a police crackdown on "street criminals." "Cops must be unleashed," Rothbard wrote, "and allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error." While they're at it, they should "clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares?" To seal the deal with social conservatives, Rothbard urged a federalist compromise in their direction on "pornography, prostitution, or abortion." And because grassroots organizing is "plodding and boring," this new paleo coalition would need to be kick-started by "high-level, preferably presidential, political campaigns."

The presidential campaign Rothbard and Rockwell supported in 1988 was Ron Paul's run on the Libertarian Party ticket. In 1992, they were again ready to back Paul, until Pat Buchanan convinced the obstetrician to withdraw and back his conservative challenge to then-president Bush. "We have a dream," Rockwell wrote in that same January 1992 edition of RRR, "and perhaps someday it will come to pass. (Hell, if 'Dr.' King can have a dream, why can't we?) Our dream is that, one day, we Buchananites can present Mr. and Mrs. America, and all the liberal and conservative and centrist elites, with a dramatic choice....We can say: 'Look, gang: you have a choice, it's either Pat Buchanan or David Duke.'"

...snip...

But perhaps the best refutation of the old approach is not the absence of race-baiting rhetoric from its progenitors, but the success of the 2008 Ron Paul phenomenon. The man who was once the Great Paleolibertarian Hope has built a broad base of enthusiastic supporters without resorting to venomous rhetoric or coded racism. He has stuck stubbornly to the issues of sound money, "humble foreign policy," and shrinking the state. He wraps up his speeches with a three-part paean to individualism: "I don't want to run your life," "I don't want to run the economy," and "I don't want to run the world." He talks about the disproportionate effect of the drug war on African-Americans, and appeared at a September 2007 Republican debate on black issues that was boycotted by the then-frontrunners. All this and more have brought him $30 million-plus from more than 100,000 donors; thousands of campaign volunteers, and the largest rallies he's ever spoken to, including a crowd of almost 5,000 in Philadelphia.

Basicly the same conclusion folks like Paul Fromm, Don Black, Willis Carto, Kevin Alfred Strom and John Tyndall came to when they signed the New Orleans Protocol four years ago in the name of European American unity. Lay off the overt racism when recruiting, bring them in on other issues. It's a plan!

The New Orleans Protocol

On Saturday, May 29, 2004, leaders of groups from three countries struck a historical agreement about future conduct in the post-September 11 era. The protocol was the initiative of former Louisiana State representative David Duke.

The protocol pledges adherents to a pan-European outlook, recognizing national and ethnic allegiance, but stressing the value of all European peoples. The three provisions of the protocols are:

Zero tolerance for violence.

Honourable and ethical behaviour in relations with other signatory groups. This includes not attacking or denouncing others who have signed this protocol. In other words, no enemies on the right.

Maintaining a high tone in our arguments and public presentations.

The founding endorsers of the New Orleans Protocol are EURO and the David Duke Report (David Duke), Stormfront (Don Black), the American Free Press (Willis Carto), the Truth at Last (Dr. Ed Fields), the National Alliance (Kevin Alfred Strom), the British National Party [England] (John Tyndall) and the Canadian Association for Free Expression [Canada] (Paul Fromm)


38 posted on 01/16/2008 8:30:56 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: mnehrling

Not just Rockwell, I think. There seems to be more than one writer, judging by the varying tone of the columns.


41 posted on 01/16/2008 9:46:20 AM PST by Puddleglum
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To: mnehrling

As I’ve said on other threads, a lot of the internet support for Ron Paul can be traced to Rockwell or Justin Raimondo.

Both Antiwar and lewrockwell used to have a banner listing the other as a sister site. Both are linked to the Von Mises Institute where lew rockwell is the president. Raimondo is a policy analyst at the Center for Libertarian Studies. CLS is formally affiliated with the Von Mises Institute. The links between Antiwar, Von Mises, lew rockwell are many. They are all avid supporters of Ron Paul.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 5:29:39 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: mnehrling; SJackson; All

Hey!! Ron Paul just won a straw poll! Maybe someone can finally see his support is NOT coming from conservatives.

A DEMOCRATIC PARTY STRAW POLL

It may be snowing here in Washington, D.C., but the sun is apparently shinning on Congressman Ron Paul, who edged out Senator John McCain in the 2008 Democratic Party Republican Straw Poll. Meanwhile, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani ended up in a familiar place: sixth.

Top 3 results: Candidate % Rep. Ron Paul 25.72%

Sen. John McCain 24.73%

Gov. Mike Huckabee 17.17%

http://www.democrats.org/a/2008/01/paul_tops_mccai_2.php


43 posted on 01/17/2008 4:31:05 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: mnehrling; Non-Sequitur
Yes, throw Rockwell under the bus and drive back and forth over him a few times.

It's time for a look at the real Rockwell and his agenda.

44 posted on 01/17/2008 4:44:02 PM PST by x
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To: mnehrling

Check out this thread on another potential link between Rockwell and Ron Paul.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1954778/posts?page=15

The essence of this thread is that the Constitution Party is courting Ron Paul.

According to one poster there, the Constitution party is linked to the League of the South.

FYI, Lew Rockwell was one of the founders of the League of the South. Also, there have been several pro ron Paul articles posted on the Constitution Party website.

One begins to wonder after reading the article starting this thread on Paul’s long term political strategy and the Constitution Party thread if Ron Paul may be pulling a gigantic scam on gullible conservative republicans. Here’s the outline of the potential scam. Ron uses his republican credentials to raise a large sum of campaign cash then uses this cash to run as the Constitution Party nominee.


45 posted on 01/17/2008 5:35:23 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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