More on Obama and Babies Born Alive

Townhall.com ^ | January 16, 2008 | Terence Jeffrey

[MrB]

It takes some severe ideological blinders (or just plain EVIL) to look at a fully formed baby and wonder “if this is a child”.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

One, like the federal Born Alive Infants bill, simply said a living "homo sapiens" wholly emerged from his mother should be treated as a "'person,' 'human being,' 'child' and 'individual.'"

As opposed to "an excised tumor," "some extraneous matter" or "a tunafish sandwhich?"

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

look at a fully formed baby and wonder “if this is a child”.

I recall this little riddle, attributed to Abraham Lincoln:

If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?
Five?

No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg.

And calling a child something other than a child don't make it something other than a child. Even if you're a democrat.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

It takes some severe ideological blinders (or just plain EVIL) to look at a fully formed baby and wonder “if this is a child”.

Especially when he's a father of two.

[Sgt_Schultze]

To the ardent abortion advocate, a woman who chooses an abortion is entitled that procedure yield the requisite corpse.

[massgopguy]

Jill Staneck told congress that one of these babies lived for eight hours being dying from medical neglect.

[ClearCase_guy]

That’s probably my favorite Lincoln story. There is tremendous wisdom in it.

[MrB]

I’m sure he and his wife watched excitedly as their children turned and stretched on the sonogram screen.

Then, to state that a baby, outside the womb, born alive, might not be a person or a child...

I’m reminded of someone that I argued into this position. When it got to be obvious that she was trapped into giving up her position or denying the obvious,

she put up her hand, lowered her head, and said “I don’t care - women should have the choice.”

[Fox_Mulder77]

great article. shows us all who this guy, barack, really is.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

The "Born Alive Infants" Act needs to be brought up at every debate between liberals and conservatives, along with partial-birth abortion. Although the American public is split fairly evenly between pro-life and pro-choice positions, the extreme positions above are only favored by a handful of kool-aid drinkers, and/or those in debt to the abortion lobby. Rather than asking Obama what his "present" vote meant, ask him the more direct question--"The kid made it out alive. He's breathing and crying in the nurse's arms. What's the next move?"

Ask Hillary if a viable 9-month child who is still partially inside the birth canal should have his head punctured with a sharp instrument and his brain sucked out with a vacuum device. She will answer with rhetoric about the mother's health and blah-blah-blah, but stick to the issue of the baby. How, in God's name (even for a secular humanist) is this remotely okay?

[MrB]

You’ll never get a pro-abort to directly address the morality of that “procedure”. They always will generalize and abstract away from what is actually happening.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

she put up her hand, lowered her head, and said “I don’t care - women should have the choice.”

Ah yes--the rallying cry of the liberal who refuses to be swayed by mere facts and logic.

[aimhigh]

This is just a sample of how Obama will bring the nation together. Agree or die.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

They always will generalize and abstract away from what is actually happening.

You are exactly right. But, sometimes the lightbulb will go off in a spectator's head when he realizes that one side is arguing facts while the other is merely deflecting them and changing the subject. The libs end up sounding like Abbott & Costello performing "Who's On First." Except the libs aren't funny.

Witness the wonderful Santorum/Boxer debate.

[goodwithagun]

Yet I they want to take away my choice of what light bulb I can use, what car I can drive, and whether or not I can smoke in my own home. How is that for continuity?

[Eagles6]

"It takes some severe ideological blinders (or just plain EVIL) to look at a fully formed baby and wonder “if this is a child”.

The mental contortions that someone must go through to get to that point must leave them mentally exhausted and incapable of reasoned thought.

[polymuser]

Cognitive dissonance, the neoliberal state of mind.

[MrB]

Last line in the “debate”:

BOXER: I am not answering these questions.

This is what it always comes down to when you attempt to have a logical debate with a rabid pro-abort on the subject.

[CaliGirl-R]

I started using a computer about 5 yrs ago. I had never heard of partial-birth abortions. I came across a blog that had a link to a site that explained partial-birth and had pictures of babies that this happened to.

Also the burned babies from some solution that is used to kill them. I was horrified and just sat in my chair and cried. I thought my head would explode from the anger I felt.

Now this Born Alive Infants Act. Anyone who can vote to kill a surviving baby is just a monster to me. I’m just surprised that there has to be an “Act” to save a baby. It saddens me immensely.