Posted on 01/15/2008 4:59:40 PM PST by america4vr
Huckabee's closing argument to voters here this evening featured a few new stories and two prolonged sections on illegal immigration and Christian values.
These two topics usually feature prominently in Huckabee's stump speech, but last night he got specific, promising to build a border fence within 18 months if elected and elaborating on his belief that the constitution needs to be amended.
"[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it's a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God, and that's what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards," Huckabee said, referring to the need for a constitutional human life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.
Huckabee often refers to the need to amend the constitution on these grounds, but he has never so specifically called for the Constitution to be brought within "God's standards," which are themselves debated amongst religious scholars. As a closing statement he asked the room of nearly 500 supporters to "pray and then work hard, and in that order," to help him secure a victory in Tuesday's GOP primary.
Tomorrow Huckabee will visit two polling places in the morning before taking off for South Carolina where he will watch Michigan's returns come in.
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Au contrare, my erudite, scholarly, expressively impressive,oh-so-well-mannered fellow FReeper;it is you whose character is of the most stratospheric of benchmarks.
For it takes the inspired character you manifest to recognize another.
cacophonous. Well you seemed to be making an excessive amount of Sturm und Drang. :-)
A rational position though one I don't share.
Regards,
John
I could not have said it better!!
Funny, I don't remember talking to you at all. Tactologic understood perfectly. That you don't is a pity but I can live with that.
I'd love to see Huckabee defend his 30% consumption (sales) tax as "within God's standards"...
ping for later
Try reading the totality of the posts. If you have trouble with reading comprehension, get back to me and I’ll explain what escapes you in very simple language. I’m a compassionate conservative.
So, he couldn't do it in Arkansas...but he'll do it for the US of A. Sounds good. I'm changing my vote to Huckabee.
It sure seems that way.
Caca-phony -- (n) Overuse of bathroom-oriented words (such as Depends, constipation, colonoscopy, Metamucil) by a politician named Mike Huckabee.
What does that mean? There is a constitutional process for amendments. Its not conservative or liberal It is the only way to do it and that's what Huck meant. This theocracy argument proves what I have said all along; casual Christians fear committed Christians
In Huckabee's case, the liberals would be right.
As a practicing devout church-going Baptist who is apalled at the awful US culture, I am scared senseless that the GOP will nominate this "Christian-first" candidate like Huckabee.
It is one thing to be a political leader (like GWB) who is an American first yet remains proud and supportive of Christian faith and values.
Huckabee is running for office as a way to PROMOTE and show off his Christianity to the rest of the nation and the world.
There is a big difference.
Jewish Republicans and secular conservatives are rightly scared of Huckabee. (Michael Medved not withstanding)
A constitutional amendment cannot be unconstitutional. Once adopted, it’ part of the Constitution.
That said, I support the principle of separation of church and state — and I’m more than a little leery when a politician proposes to write “God’s standards,” as he defines them, into the law.
Now, that is downright clever. A well deserved cacophony of applause!
1656, from Gk. kakophonia, from kakophonos "harsh sounding," from kakos "bad, evil" + phone "voice" (see fame). Kako- was a common prefix in Gk., and has often crossed over into Eng., e.g. cacography, the opposite of calligraphy (q.v.).Etymologists connect it with PIE *kakka- "to defecate."
So then, please allow me to rephrase my comment.
Now that is downright clever. A well deserved chorus of thunderous applause!
and thank you for the etymological lesson.
Let's tease this out a bit. Do committed Christians vote for Huckabee and casual Christians do otherwise? Speak plain.
Casual Christians believe in Christ, but are uncomfortable with public displays of faith. They go to church every once in a while, particularly at Christmas and Easter. They don’t read the Bible by choice, and they certainly don’t believe it is literally true. If asked if they are a member of particular denomination, they say yes, but they only follow the doctrines they like and justify it.
Committed Christians not only have faith, but they try to live faith. They believe that living their faith is right even when they fall short sometimes. They go to church as often as humanly possible because they love going. They belong to a denomination (confession) and follow the doctrine or feel really guilty. They believe that prayer works. Most of all, they are comfortable praising God in public and aren’t upset when someone else does.
Commited Christians creep Casual Christians out. They think that they are either faking it, or they are stupid hillbillies. They fear that the Committed Christians are nutty enough to actually let faith affect politics.
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