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To: GodGunsGuts

Well, I’m supposed to be working, so I scanned the article, instead of reading it carefully :)

The paper hypothesized that recreational/illegal drug use is associated with AIDS related symptoms. It also hypothesizes that drugs currently used to treat HIV infection are related to AIDS symptoms.

With my admittedly limited attention to the subject I can say that AIDS-related deaths were very common prior to the release of AZT and the other drug(s). AIDS was a death sentence, causing some people to clamor for increased research funding.

Now, people still die, albeit at a slower rate, and not always predictably. The effects of the disease and treatment drugs combined are not always pretty, and some genetic differences in predisposition to problems are likely.

My wife’s experience is often with people who are non-compliant in their treatment of their HIV infections. These people often die in the 20’s and 30’s. In her experience of an admittedly limited sample, people who are HIV+, 50+, and non-compliant with meds are rare in the ICU. So, they are either dead, or comparatively “healthy”.

If the complainers think the treatments are causing them problems, it is within their right to terminate treatment. Their actions speak more about their opinions than their words - kinda like Huckabee’s “Tax me more” program /OT.

Concerning the hypotheses in article 2, people who exhibit extreme drug use and other behavioral disorders probably don’t eat their vegetables, get enough sleep at night, exercise, say their prayers, go to the dentist, etc, They will be prone to many and diverse problems.


44 posted on 01/15/2008 9:06:26 AM PST by rusty millet
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To: rusty millet
All very good points. However, if you take the time to read Duesberg’s paper closely, I think you will find that all these anomalies are addressed and answered. What’s unfortunate in regards to the AIDS debate is that very few people are willing or feel qualified to take the time to sort these issues out.
47 posted on 01/15/2008 9:13:12 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: rusty millet
Rusty:

You are exactly correct in your analysis.

And I completely agree that "If the complainers think the treatments are causing them problems, it is within their right to terminate treatment."

What is particularly scary is people like GodsGunsGuts repeatedly post long disproven CONSPIRACY THEORIES that AIDS is a fiction pushed on conservatives by liberals, who all the time knew that it was gay drugs that caused AIDS.

My fear is that people will read those lies on this public site, believe them, reject treatment and die.

There are many many examples of that happening already. And there are cases of parents withholding drugs from their children, who later died of AIDS.

jas3
96 posted on 01/15/2008 12:14:07 PM PST by jas3
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