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1 posted on 01/15/2008 6:18:57 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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For another view of what causes AIDS, see:

Genetica 104: 85-132

The AIDS dilemma: drug diseases blamed on a passenger virus

Peter Duesberg & David Rasnick

Department of Molecular and Cell Biology, Stanley Hall, UC Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA (Phone: (510) 642-6549; Fax: (510) 643-6455; E-mail: duesberg@uclink4.berkeley.edu)

Abstract

Almost two decades of unprecedented efforts in research costing US taxpayers over $50 billion have failed to defeat Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) and have failed to explain the chronology and epidemiology of AIDS in America and Europe. The failure to cure AIDS is so complete that the largest American AIDS foundation is even exploiting it for fundraising: ‘Latest AIDS statistics - 0,000,000 cured. Support a cure, support AMFAR.’ The scientific basis of all these unsuccessful efforts has been the hypothesis that AIDS is caused by a sexually transmitted virus, termed Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), and that this viral immunodeficiency manifests in 30 previously known microbial and non-microbial AIDS diseases.

In order to develop a hypothesis that explains AIDS we have considered ten relevant facts that American and European AIDS patients have, and do not have, in common: (1) AIDS is not contagious. For example, not even one health care worker has contracted AIDS from over 800,000 AIDS patients in America and Europe. (2) AIDS is highly non-random with regard to sex (86% male); sexual persuasion (over 60% homosexual); and age (85% are 25-49 years old). (3) From its beginning in 1980, the AIDS epidemic progressed non-exponentially, just like lifestyle diseases. (4) The epidemic is fragmented into distinct subepidemics with exclusive AIDS-defining diseases. For example, only homosexual males have Kaposi’s sarcoma. (5) Patients do not have any one of 30 AIDS-defining diseases, nor even immunodeficiency, in common. For example, Kaposi’s sarcoma, dementia, and weight loss may occur without immunodeficiency. Thus, there is no AIDS-specific disease. (6) AIDS patients have antibody against HIV in common only by definition-not by natural coincidence. AIDS-defining diseases of HIV-free patients are called by their old names. (7) Recreational drug use is a common denominator for over 95% of all American and European AIDS patients, including male homosexuals. (8) Lifetime prescriptions of inevitably toxic anti-HIV drugs, such as the DNA chain-terminator AZT, are another common denominator of AIDS patients. (9) HIV proves to be an ideal surrogate marker for recreational and anti-HIV drug use. Since the virus is very rare (< 0.3%) in the US/European population and very hard to transmit sexually, only those who inject street drugs or, have over 1,000 typically drug-mediated sexual contacts are likely to become positive. (10) The huge AIDS literature cannot offer even one statistically significant group of drug-free AIDS patients from America and Europe.

In view of this, we propose that the long-term consumption of recreational drugs (such as cocaine, heroin, nitrite inhalants, and amphetamines) and prescriptions of DNA chain-terminating and other anti-HIV drugs, cause all AIDS diseases in America and Europe that exceed their long-established, national backgrounds, i.e. >95%. Chemically distinct drugs cause distinct AIDS-defining diseases; for example, nitrite inhalants cause Kaposi’s sarcoma, cocaine causes weight loss, and AZT causes immunodeficiency, lymphoma, muscle atrophy, and dementia. The drug hypothesis predicts that AIDS: (1) is non-contagious; (2) is non-random, because 85% of AIDS causing drugs are used by males, particularly sexually active homosexuals between 25 and 49 years of age, and (3) would follow the drug epidemics chronologically. Indeed, AIDS has increased from negligible numbers in the early 1980s to about 80,000 annual cases in the early ‘90s and has since declined to about 50,000 cases (US figures). In the same period, recreational drug users have increased from negligible numbers to millions by the late 1980s, and have since decreased possibly twofold. However, AIDS has declined less because since 1987 increasing numbers of mostly healthy, HIV-positive people, currently about 200,000, use anti-HIV drugs that cause AIDS and other diseases. At least 64 scientific studies, government legislation, and non-scientific reports document that recreational drugs cause AIDS and other diseases. Likewise, the AIDS literature, the drug manufacturers, and non-scientific reports confirm that anti-HIV drugs cause AIDS and other diseases in humans and animals. In sum, the AIDS dilemma could be solved by banning anti-HIV drugs, and by pointing out that drugs cause AIDS -modeled on the successful anti-smoking campaign.

FULL PAPER:

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/pddrdilemma.htm


2 posted on 01/15/2008 6:20:53 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I find it difficult to muster up any sympathy - the solution to their problem is self-evident.


3 posted on 01/15/2008 6:21:54 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Maybe this will put a stop to the increasing practice of purposely getting infected with HIV in order to be marked as “part of the group”.


4 posted on 01/15/2008 6:22:09 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GodGunsGuts

So either he is stating something that was aways known. I was always under the impression that the treatment was just prolonging the inevitable because the drugs would kill the patient instead of the diease. It was a trade off.

OR

There is not enough sympathy in this election cycle so now the sexual politics politicians are doing this for PC sympathy.


9 posted on 01/15/2008 6:31:35 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GodGunsGuts

well if the side effects are worse than having AIDS..... stop taking them.

It’s called a cost benefit ration.


11 posted on 01/15/2008 6:32:27 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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Here’s a tip for male homosexuals—eat one gallon of spicy chili, drink one or two bottles of hot sauce and about 12 beers.

...this is NOT a cure for aids but is will be a shining example of why you have an @zzhole.

14 posted on 01/15/2008 6:40:34 AM PST by sierrahome (Hillary Clinton "America's Ex-Wife")
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To: GodGunsGuts

How about the ratio of death for aids patients and other diseases compared to the money spent. It ain’t even close, for all the hoopla about aids it’s a very hard disease to get and the deaths are relatively small. But it is the politically correct disease and as long as we have a political party that is willing to sacrifice the many for the few innocents will continue to die.


15 posted on 01/15/2008 6:41:29 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: GodGunsGuts

They say they have good reason to be scared????

HELL might be a little bit more of a reason to be scared!!


16 posted on 01/15/2008 6:43:43 AM PST by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It’s like cancer, if the disease doesn’t kill, the medicines taken to fight it will.


18 posted on 01/15/2008 7:03:30 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: GodGunsGuts

So what do the aids drugs do to people? I wasn’t able to read the article.


20 posted on 01/15/2008 7:09:14 AM PST by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
In 1993 I knew the following to be true:

If you were HIV positive, otherwise healthy and took AZT per your doctors orders you would die. If you didn't, you would live.

Nothing I have read since has changed my mind on that subject. All that changed is the dose levels of the killer drugs that are prescribed for HIV positives. So death is a little slower.

Here is my prescription for anyone who is told they are HIV positive.

Stop taking any kind of illegal drugs. Take a hard look at any prescription medicine you are taking and make sure that it isn't killing you. In particular, refuse any drugs offered as a "cure" for your HIV infection. Change your eating habits to a healthy diet. Start exercising regularly. Stop having sex in ways that make you subject to continuous viral or bacterial infections.

27 posted on 01/15/2008 7:32:09 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: GodGunsGuts

Or maybe their health problems have nothing to do with AIDS drugs and more to do with the cumulative affect of repeated STD infections.


40 posted on 01/15/2008 8:58:17 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GodGunsGuts

“How long will the human body be able to tolerate that constant bombardment?”

Gee Larry, perhaps having sex with men isn’t healthy for you....(eyes rolling)

Science has never figured out how to stop a Virus. Be it the common cold, or HIV, it doesn’t matter.

The difference is you choose to engage in sex acts that transmit the virus, the common cold is airborne and unavoidable.


68 posted on 01/15/2008 10:53:58 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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"...we have good reason again to be really scared.”

Should have thought about that before you 'pulled' down your fellow man's pants.

116 posted on 01/15/2008 2:59:38 PM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: GodGunsGuts

bookmark for later


234 posted on 01/16/2008 11:20:43 AM PST by Reddy (VOTE CONSERVATIVE in '08!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It would have been nice to read the article, I don’t feel like spending the time to join so I can read the article. Whatever the article said, it must have been interesting.


245 posted on 01/16/2008 12:01:58 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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