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Bush wrongly blames America for not bombing Auschwitz
American Thinker ^ | 01/13/08 | JR Dunn

Posted on 01/14/2008 10:02:11 AM PST by DFG

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To: Poincare

B17’s or B24’s taking off from England or Libya (or maybe Sicily after mid 1943) to bomb Auschwitz in southern Poland could possibly have continued on to land in Russian terrority (shuttle mission). Several of those types of missions were flown with reduced bombloads. But they had heavy losses and our Russian “allies” were not very cooperative.

Also, the early Ploesti raids in Romania by B24’s from Libya killed a lot of American bomber crewmen and did very little damage to Ploesti. The Ploesti raids might have been a factor in FDR’s decision.


21 posted on 01/14/2008 10:29:41 AM PST by DFG
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To: r9etb
But in hindsight ... it's difficult to see why the war leaders didn't authorize a mission to destroy at least the rail lines leading to Auschwitz.

It would also have made the Germans aware that we knew what was going on there.

22 posted on 01/14/2008 10:30:26 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Bush is right . .and it takes some courage to indirectly criticize FDR and his handling of the Holocaust.

History IS important.


23 posted on 01/14/2008 10:31:01 AM PST by barryg
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To: DFG

What did FDR know and when did he know it?


24 posted on 01/14/2008 10:34:04 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DoughtyOne
"What a lame comment. It’s comments like this that tell me Bush means well but just isn’t quite up to the task."

Heh, heh.

There's more of that infernal "blame America" talk again!

25 posted on 01/14/2008 10:38:02 AM PST by Designer
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To: barryg

I wasn’t aware that I was defending FDR. I would blame Ike more than FDR if the US Army Air Corps had the ability to pull off such a mission before D-Day. Unfortunately, Ike listened too much to advice from British generals like Montgomery.


26 posted on 01/14/2008 10:41:58 AM PST by DFG
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To: barryg

You have sidestepped my point for your purpose. There was no mention of FDR in my reply.


27 posted on 01/14/2008 10:43:16 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: DFG
Ask anyone what they would have done in any conflict and one gets a variety of thoughts based on a variety of circumstances. A bombing campaign probably wouldn’t have killed as many innocent victims as were cooked in the ovens.
28 posted on 01/14/2008 10:47:39 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: barryg

I think the point being made last week by people considerably smarter than I is that every bomb we used on non-strategic targets was one more day that our troops were under the gun.

Winning the war by securing the German surrender as quickly as possible seems the best way to save the Jews that remained in the camps. Bombing the railways leading to the camps does nothing to save the Jews en route (the Germans would have just sealed the cars and they would die there), or in camp.


29 posted on 01/14/2008 10:47:51 AM PST by dmz
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To: r9etb

Yes, FDR should certainly have bombed all the death camps.


30 posted on 01/14/2008 10:50:24 AM PST by Harvey1
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To: DFG

This request to bomb the Auschwitz railroad tracks was made repeatedly to FDR and was repeatedly ignored.

FDR’s State Department worked very hard not to save any of the Holocaust victims or to let them immigrate to the United States. I suggest you read up on the subject.

Assistant Secretary of State Breckinridge Long outlines ways in which consulates can indefinitely postpone granting visas. “We can delay and effectively stop for a temporary period of indefinite length the number of immigrants into the United States. We could do this by simply advising our consuls to put every obstacle in the way and to require additional evidence and to resort to various administrative devices which would postpone and postpone and postpone the granting of the visas.”


31 posted on 01/14/2008 10:52:01 AM PST by barryg
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To: barryg

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/holocaust/filmmore/reference/primary/index.html

In line with its undeclared policy not to aid in the rescue of refugees, the War Department routinely turned down requests to bomb deportation railways. No studies were ever conducted to check the feasibility of such bombing raids.


32 posted on 01/14/2008 10:54:53 AM PST by barryg
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Bush is a disappointment to me. I took a little time to look into the whole “legacy/family name” thing, though, back in 2000. I had an old childhood friend who has an MBA from Harvard and asked if it was possible to get that based on family connections. It’s not.


33 posted on 01/14/2008 10:54:55 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: razzle

“He was saying it for the consumption of Israel and others. He knows its not real.” Yeah! He scared hell out of Israel by badmouthing them about their occupation of Palestine.

I had some admiration for Bush a few years ago. I have since lost it. Too many of his ideas run counter to U.S. sovereignty and independence. Too many globalist ideas and agendas.


34 posted on 01/14/2008 10:57:14 AM PST by dvan
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To: barryg

The facts speak for themselves; there is no “argument” of which I’m aware.


35 posted on 01/14/2008 10:59:16 AM PST by laconic (ence)
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To: Harvey1

My point was that many of the death camps like Auschwitz and Sobibor were in Poland or the eastern part of Germany. The March 4, 1944 raid on Berlin was one of the longest 8th Air Force missions up until that time and bomber losses were high. Before D-Day, it would have been a suicide mission for our bomber crews if we had attempted to send to eastern Germany or Poland.


36 posted on 01/14/2008 11:01:57 AM PST by DFG
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To: DFG

President Bush is a hero for saying this. It’s a question many people have been asking for years. This writer goes to great lengths to provide excuses for why nothing was done when it was known full well what was going on.


37 posted on 01/14/2008 11:02:40 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: dvan

It sounds like you should be a Ron Paul supporter? Or is your preference Pat Buchanan?


38 posted on 01/14/2008 11:03:03 AM PST by barryg
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To: dvan

Occupation of “palestine”? What Palestine?


39 posted on 01/14/2008 11:04:26 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: DFG

You are wrong about this. In fact, Auschwitz was once bombed ACCIDENTALLY when a nearby chemical factory was targeted.

The inmates at Auschwitz were overjoyed, they thought that FDR had finally listened to their prayers. Instead, FDR told the Air Force to never let it happen again.


40 posted on 01/14/2008 11:05:29 AM PST by barryg
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