Posted on 01/13/2008 3:31:02 PM PST by MichMash
Unbelievable.
Yes, but that is not the issue.
Uhhhhh no. US Embassies are considered US soil. US Military bases around the world are not necessarily so.
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We should build a new facility for this, and right next to it a new U.N. World HQ, in a holler down south.
1) Release them;
2) Put them into the Federal prison system;
3) Put them into the Military Prison system;
or
4) Release them to their countries. It is my understanding that most countries do not want them back.
I am not fond of (2). Is there a Military Prison in the Alaskan Tundra? If not maybe we should build one. Obviously, 1) should not be an option, but considering the namby-pamby politicians we have put into power it wouldn’t surprise me, if I saw one of Gitmo's released prisoners walking down Michigan Avenue.
“I sure don’t want those bums in American territory. If they can offload them to another country, that would be okay. But where?”
Devil’s Island
We should keep it open. The issue of this thread is whether the Chairman of the JCS went off the reservation with his statement that we should close it as soon as possible. If you read the entire article and see the caveats Mullen makes about the problems of closing Gitmo, he really isn’t saying anything different than Bush and Gates have been saying. This is a MSM attempt to create the impression of controversy within the Aministration where none really exists.
Joint Chiefs chairman: close Guantanamo
Freerepublic: Hell NO!
From Wilipedia — of course that’s not a perfect source, but it’s what I found quickly....
List of alleged returnees
Names of Guantanamo captives who are alleged to have “returned to the battlefield”
Maulvi Abdul Ghaffar — Had been a senior Taliban military leader prior to capture. Allegedly captured in Afghanistan in December 2001, was one of the twenty-three prisoners released from Camp Delta in late January 2004. After his release, he joined the remnants of the Taliban and was killed in a gunfight on September 26, 2004The official list of Guantanamo captives included two men with the same name, who remained in custody years after Maulvi Abdul Ghaffar had been reported to have been released, and killed in combat.[6]
Abdullah Mehsud — Reportedly captured in Afghanistan in December 2001 after surrendering to Abdul Rashid Dostum.
That he was ever been captured, and sent to Guantanamo has been challenged.[5]
Allegedly masterminded the kidnapping of two Chinese engineers in Pakistan’s South Waziristan region.
Allegedly returning to his position as an Al-Qaeda field commander.[12] One of the Chinese engineers died during a rescue mission, the other was rescued.[2]
Mehsud also claimed responsibility for the bombing at Islamabad’s Marriott Hotel in October 2004. The blast injured seven people, including a U.S. diplomat, two Italians and the Pakistani prime minister’s chief security officer. Mehsud was subsequently reported to have been killed in combat.
Mohammed Yusif Yaqub aka Mullah Shahzada — Reports of the release, return to the battlefield, and subsequent death in combat of Mullah Shahzada, while reported in the press, is always attributed to unnamed insiders. The official list of Guantanamo captives included a man the same name, Haji Shahzada who remained in custody years after the stories that Mullah Shahzada had been reported to have been released, and killed in combat. Haji Shahzada was one of the 38 captives whose Combatant Status Review Tribunal determined they had not been an enemy combatant in the first place.
On Monday, May 14, 2007, Pentagon officials, for the first time, tied the reports that “Mullah Shahzada” had returned to the battlefield to the name of one of the captives on the official list of Guantanamo captives, Mohammed Yusif Yaqub. According to Reuters summary of their testimony:
“Released May 8, 2003, he assumed control of Taliban operations in Southern Afghanistan and died fighting U.S. forces on May 7, 2004.”
Mohammed Ismail — First identified as a former captive who had returned to the battlefield in Testimony before Congress on Monday May 14, 2007. According to Reuters summary of their testimony:
“Released from Guantanamo in early 2004, he was recaptured four months later in May while participating in an attack on U.S. forces near Kandahar. When captured, Ismail carried a letter confirming his status as a Taliban member in good standing.”
Abdul Rahman Noor — First identified as a former captive who had returned to the battlefield in Testimony before Congress on Monday May 14, 2007. According to Reuters summary of their testimony:
“Released in July 2003, he has since participated in fighting against U.S. forces near Kandahar. After his release, he was identified as the man described in an October 7, 2001, interview with Al Jazeera television as the “deputy defense minister of the Taliban.”
Mohammed Nayim Farouq — First identified as a former captive who had returned to the battlefield in Testimony before Congress on Monday, May 14, 2007. According to Reuters summary of their testimony:
Released from U.S. custody in July 2003, he quickly renewed his association with Taliban and al Qaeda members and has since become “reinvolved in anti-coalition militant activity.”
un-named — Reports have circulated that one of the three children who was held for a year and a half, in Camp Iguana, and released on January 28, 2004, was subsequently captured, or subsequently killed in combat — accounts vary.[17]
As with “Mullah Shahzada” this information is attributed to unnamed insiders.
Accounts of when he was captured, or killed, vary.
Oliver North claimed that the released child was “Mullah Shahzada”.[21] North claimed that “Mullah Shahzada” was killed in combat weeks after his release. Mullah is an honorary title, meaning “educated man”. However the only schooling the three children held in Camp Iguana ever received was the lessons they received at the camp.[23][24][25] North’s account that a released child from Camp Iguana was killed in combat, weeks after his release, is at odds with the accounts of the journalists who interviewed the children during the months following their release.
Unbelievable. I’m sure there are plenty of American prisoners who would like to got to GITMO in the terrorists’ place.
What the hell does this have to do with military concerns and the Joint chiefs?
Tell me about delivering the “firstest with the mostest” and I will listen to you.
I am not even remotely concerned about his opinions on boxers vs briefs, either.
Maybe the Admiral can give them jobs, working for him?
Apparently the Joint Chiefs are taking over some responsibilities from the State Department. I guess we dont have enough people to act as advocates for our enemies, while also failing to consider thei interests of the US.
I do not like it when the men we depend on use silly excuses like, “We should close Gitmo because the world does not like it.” I want men of steel to be our leaders, especially in war time. I do not like it when President Bush says it. I do not like it when those words come out of namby-pamby men he appoints. We are at war. If we are at war then “Out or Uniform Barbarians” should be kept in prison at the very least. I expect strength of character and strong will from men in the position of the President, Chairman of the JCS, Secretary of Defense and the Deputy Secretary to the Secretary of Defense. If men want to be leaders, then they should damn well lead, especially in time of war.
Perhaps he wants to execute the terrorists and be done with it :o)
Mullen lacks the stones to continue this fight. He should either step down or be fired immediately for falling either being woefully naive or incredibly stupid.
No, not really. They need to make the necessity for those cells less by eliminating the enemy (even if that means releasing them so that we can target them with smart bombs).
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