Posted on 01/13/2008 1:51:13 PM PST by wagglebee
If you were NOT allowed to 'interrupt'--Sam Donaldson would have been put out of business his first day in the White House Press Corps!!!!....lol
Yeah, they were there to heckle a politician. We have a Constitution and Bill of Rights in this country, we are allowed to do that.
Take your crap somewheres else bub, like kindergarten, post haste.
So, you disagree with being allowed to speak out against politicians you don't like. Are you a communist or something? Because AMERICANS understand the concept of free speech.
Excellent Post!
The First Amendment states that the people have a right to assemble peacefully
There is no constitutional right to prevent someone else from express that right. Get real.
Heckling, to the point of disrupting a lawful assembly or preventing other people from speaking, is illegal. It has been litigated many times. Usually comes with a conviction for disorderly conduct.
I heckled B. Clinton once but I did not prevent him from speaking so it was fine. He and the crowd heard me and my cohorts but the event was not disrupted.
Now, if you want to engage in civil disobedience, which is a tradition in American politics, be my guest. BUT you can and should be arrested and you have to be willing to face the consequences. You have to be willing to prevent someone else from exercising their constitutional rights though.
He was talking about the tanks rolling into the square to silence the protest.
And let's get real here, the phrase "let's roll" may be associated with 9/11, but it hardly originated there.
But, as long as we're on the only topic that put Rooty Toot in the public eye, why is it that the 3000 innocent Americans who died on 9/11/01 are more important than the 3500 innocent Americans who will die in abortuaries today?
NOBODY was keeping Rooty from speaking, you are delusional if you think they were. Noise DOES NOT prevent a person from speaking.
Rooty Toot was riding in a parade, are you going to sit here and tell me that nobody else along the parade route was shouting things?
Again, if you disrupt a lawful assembly of people exercising their own constitutional rights then you are engaging in illegal conduct.
From the facts contained in the article they made it impossible, impractical or both for Guiliani to speak.
Obviously, the police felt differently or they would have arrested him.
Disrupting someone from speaking is far different from preventing them from speaking.
NOBODY has a right to be heard.
If you are conducting a peaceful, lawful assembly then yes, you have a right to express yourself under the First Amendment.
Other people have a right to hear what he had to say. If you prevent them from hearing him then you are violating their right to hear him.
You do not have the right to engage in disorderly conduct. It is illegal and you should be arrested.
The fact that they were not arrested has nothing to do with it and proves nothing. Not all illegal conduct is sanctioned.
You’re just plain wrong and you know it. Give it a rest. You have been out debated and are looking like the fool you are. It is embarrassing.
You are insulting, rude and unable to discuss differences in a civil way. It is highly unlikely anyone with common sense will take your views into account.
Your are inviting rights which simply DO NOT exist.
You do not have the right to engage in disorderly conduct. It is illegal and you should be arrested.
And this man didn't.
You seem to think that a political speech consists of the politician talking and everyone sitting silently until the end. This is simply not the case.
How can you possibly say that!?
The anti-war folks care so much that they are willing to organize, and assemble, and hide themselves until the very right moment, and then they jump up and SHOUT DOWN anyone who supports the war and wants to speak publically about his support for the war.
How can you say they don't care?
The anti-Rudy folks care so much that they are willing to organize, and assemble, and hide themselves until the very right moment, and then they jump up and SHOUT DOWN anyone who supports Rudy and wants to speak publically about his support for Rudy.
From here it looks like both groups care an equal amount. They are indistinguishable from each other.
After reading your post I'm also confused, Are you from the anti-Rudy campaign, or are you from Code Pink?
And how would I do that? By shouting them down perhaps?
Many of us have sacrificed a good deal for the pro-life cause, and full well know that it's not about us.
I've been involved for over thirty years off and on and well understand exactly who and what we're fighting for. It is not my only issue of concern, but it is the number one issue, imho.
You really should be careful not to respond to people, on your side of the aisle in such a manner, particularly over something so petty. It's over the top and alienating and makes pro-lifers look like irrational, crazy people, a label the MSM and others are all to quick to attach us with, btw.
I'm not the one trying to get out of any debate, YOU are the one who wants to curtail free speech rights.
Why are you here? This place is for men, not boys.
The real question is why are you here newbie? Were you banned during the Bug Zapper thread?
LOL! I don't think the Constitution says anything of someone's "right to hear"..
If it does, could you please educate me.
Thanks in advance....
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