Posted on 01/13/2008 1:01:49 PM PST by TornadoAlley3
Six days before South Carolina Republicans go to the polls, the spat between the Southerners who need to win that crucial primary -- former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee -- continues to get uglier and uglier, even as both men tread more lightly on the candidate who leads the most recent poll in that state, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
"Fred Thompson talks about putting America first, and yet he's the one who is a registered foreign agent, lobbied for foreign countries, was in a law firm that did lobbying work for Libya," Huckabee charged Sunday morning on CNN.
Thompson, who had launched an aggressive attack against Huckabee's record during Thursday night's GOP debate in Myrtle Beach, S.C., responded by insinuating that Huckabee is in truth nastier than his sunny demeanor, is unprepared for the presidency, and is making personal attacks while Thompson is "talking about issues concerning this country."
Huckabee has "raised enough money now to get some hit pieces and dredge up personal stuff and personal accusations against me," Thompson told CNN. "And now you're seeing the real Mike Huckabee come out. So, I think we've done a favor to the American people. Because these are serious times, and they require somebody that knows what they're doing and doesn't walk into a situation with foreign representatives and heads of foreign nations with training wheels on."
Since 1980, no Republican has won the presidency without first winning the South Carolina primary. But in this year's unpredictable GOP contest, with any number of possible nominees and no clear frontrunner, the South Carolina primary has taken on extra importance -- for Huckabee and Thompson in particular.
Huckabee needs to demonstrate that his Iowa caucus victory Jan. 3 wasn't a fluke, and that his scotch-tape-and-rubber-bands campaign is capable of going national. For his part, Thompson needs to win somewhere. Anywhere.
Addressing the substance of Huckabee's charges, Thompson Sunday acknowledged he was "in a law firm that did some lobbying work for Libya," but his involvement was minimal. He said he'd registered with the government because of "five minutes' worth of contribution" to discussions about another client, Haiti.
"It was totally consistent with the policies of this country, where a dictatorship had taken over that country and we were opposing that," Thompson said.
During the Republican debate Thursday night, Thompson -- about whom even his supporters complain of less-than-energetic campaigning -- showed remarkable pep and vigor, attacking Huckabee for having overseen a net tax increase as Arkansas governor, for having pushed merit scholarships for the children of illegal immigrants, and for having suggested he would sign a nation-wide ban on smoking in public places. He took issue with comments Huckabee made that the Bush administration had demonstrated an "arrogant bunker mentality" in its foreign policy.
"On the one hand, you have the Reagan revolution," Thompson said during the debate. "You have the Reagan coalition of limited government and strong national security. On the other hand, you have the direction that Gov. Huckabee would take us in. He would be a Christian leader, but he would also bring about liberal economic policies, liberal foreign policies. .. That's not the model of the Reagan coalition. That's the model of the Democratic Party."
Huckabee didn't respond much during the debate, but appearing on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Friday morning, he took his well-known wit literally below the belt, joking, "I think Fred needs some Metamucil. I think it would help a lot. He was in a bad mood last night."
Campaigning Friday in Michigan, Huckabee went on the attack more substantively.
"It was real interesting hearing Fred Thompson talk about Ronald Reagan last night," Huckabee said. "Because Fred Thompson supported [then-President] Gerald Ford in 1976 and not Ronald Reagan. He supported [then-Sen.] Howard Baker in 1980 and not Ronald Reagan. I appreciate his recent conversion, but some of us were for Ronald Reagan back in the early days; our legacy goes back a little further."
Huckabee also tried to paint Thompson as having been an undistinguished senator.
"Eight years is a pretty long time to get a check from the federal government and not be able to say" he was responsible for any major legislation, Huckabee said.
On Saturday, Thompson called the criticism of his previous support of Ford and Baker as "kind of silly. Howard Baker was my mentor and personal friend in Tennessee for years and years. If you check the record, Gov. Huckabee supported Democrats on a fairly consistent basis in his days in Arkansas politics. I don't think he wants to get into that discussion. We'll see."
Of Huckabee's Metamucil's joke, on Sunday morning Thompson said "his response was to return fire with some potty humor. That's the best he could come up with for the last three days."
He added that he was happy to compare his record to Huckabee's, whom he described as "having raised taxes $500 million more than he cut." He described Huckabee's criticisms of the Bush administration as "blame-America-first comments," and pointed out, correctly, the Huckabee campaign chairman Ed Rollins had called the Reagan coalition dead.
Huckabee, Thompson charged, "talked around the subject and smiled and giggled and told a couple of jokes. When I came back, I said, 'You know, this is about the heart and mind of the Republican Party, because I don't believe it [the Reagan coalition] is [dead].'"
Said Huckabee, "The Writers Guild strike needs to end soon. Fred's got to get some better lines. Calling me a liberal would be laughable in Arkansas, where people recognized -- if anything, they called me this ultra-conservative guy. ... It's always interesting to me, when people get desperate, they start grabbing for anything."
Thompson responded that he had been asking questions about Huckabee's support for closing down the prison at Guantanamo Bay, his support for public programs for the children of illegal immigrants, and the fact that he was endorsed by a teachers' union.
"These are substantive issues," Thompson said. "These are not personal attacks. If the governor wants to get into personal attacks and things that happened some years ago and things that they've done and allegations, there's enough on the record in Arkansas that will keep us busy for the rest of this campaign."
Or at least until Saturday.
Really liked your youtube, way to go.
I am into tough love. No more holding my nose. If I am irrelevant, so is my vote.
You cannot twist what you do not know.
I never have, that I recall. Much as I admired President Reagan, he's not a candidate in this election.
HAAHAAHAA....Everybody lies but Huckabee.
The Huckster, on the other hand, denies his mistakes, changes the subject or, worse yet, tries to spin them as stengths. He has a record as bad or worse than McCain on encouraging illegal immigration and now tries to tell us he's pro-enforcement. He plays the old class envy card, calls the Club for Growth the Club for Greed and then tries to peddle himself as a fiscal conservative. He makes moronic and clueless statements on the Iraq War rivaling MoveOn.Org, then tries to tell us he's pro-defense.
And these examples don't even address how he twists Chistianity to support socialism.
Mrs. Huckabee remains indignant, writing off her detractors as either mistaken about her or mean-spirited. ''I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me,'' she said in an interview. ''If it wasn't for the grace of God, I'd have shot a few people already.'' ''Jesus wasn't liked, either,'' she added. ''And Jesus was mistreated, and called names.''
The Huckabees are absolutely revolting. They quote Jesus every 5 seconds, but are totally unworthy of his good name. They practice immorality and deceit, masquerading as public service. They are despicable and must be stopped. NOW. Right in South Carolina.
No, he was the minority counsel to the Watergate committee - Howard Baker's counsel. Thompson's job was to ensure a fair investigation - and when he did, the president got angry and called him names.
It did Nixon as much good as it will the huckster. You can't hide the record for that long.
WOW ... This is serious stuff. We saw some similar garbage here in Texas. The liberals will try to knock off conservatives by getting a RINO in the primary or by getting the conservative undercut somehow in order to let a Democrat win.
Numerous news reports and Huckabee's fiscal record make clear that he like working better with Democrats than conservative Republicans. Then there was Huckabee's attempt at nepotism, putting his wife into the state Treasurer job. The voters rejected that massively.
If only Huckster imploded in SC, Thompson *might* have a chance to defeat McCain.
Now why did you go trying to confuse him with FACTS.....LOL
Reagan was not recognized as a “prime-time” conservative heavyweight until his speech at Gerald Ford’s convention.
This is a stretch on Huckabees part.
I wouldn't be surprised if both Jefferson and Adams voted for Mike Huckabee.
By virtue of Fred being a lousy defense counsel
THEN WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU SUPPORT HUCKABEE??????
Sorry for the insult here - But are you just stupid, or are you lying above?????
Huck raised taxes over FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS in Arkansas -- that means raising taxes 250 BILLION when President. Huck TRIPLED SPENDING in Arkansas. Huck Released 1300 hardened CRIMINALS in Arkansas and now wants to Bring the GITMO prisonsers here ...
As another said - PAST ACTIONS ARE THE BEST INDICATOR OF FUTURE BEHAVIOR!!!!!
Been there, done that, and am going to SC!!!
Hmmm. So THAT'S why Reagan made him Chief of Staff. I guess if we're going to play the guilt-by-association game, then Reagan wasn't very Reagan-like.
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