Pistol For Police Marketed To The Public (LAPD SIS - City & Civil Rights Leaders Outraged)

Los Angeles Times ^ | January 12, 2008 | Richard Winton

[DogByte6RER]

Pistol for police marketed to the public

City leaders criticize the modified version of a gun originally made for an elite unit of the Los Angeles Police Department that has a history of fatal shootings.

By Richard Winton

Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

January 12, 2008

To the dismay of some city leaders, a gun company is marketing a line of high-end pistols named for the LAPD's Special Investigation Section, an elite group of plainclothes detectives with a history of fatally shooting suspects.

The guns for the undercover unit were created at the request of the Los Angeles Police Department. Kimber, a Yonkers, N.Y.-based gun maker, is marketing a slightly modified version to the public, touting the weapons as the "hot new SIS pistols" on the company's website.

For each of the more than $1,000 guns sold, Kimber says it will donate $15 to the nonprofit Los Angeles Police Memorial Foundation, which provides financial support to officers and their families in times of death, injury or illness.

But news that a weapon is being marketed with an "SIS" serration -- a clear reference to the LAPD -- was met with criticism from city and civil rights leaders.

"It is very disturbing," said Councilman Jack Weiss. "If any member of the public is shot with one of these guns or, heaven forbid, a cop is shot with one these guns, what would be the explanation?"

LAPD officials said the department does not endorse the gun but has no control over how the manufacturer markets the weapon.

Regarding questions about the weapons marketed to the public, Police Chief William J. Bratton dismissed the topic as a "nonissue," calling it "foolish."

[Armedanddangerous]

I read an article about that pistol the other day.

The SIS now carries Glock 21s and Smith and Wesson 4506 pistols, both chambered in 45 auto.

[MaxMax]

I CCW the Kimber Ultra Carry II. And just for the record I haven't
shot any police officers. Although there was a Sergeant who politely
asked me not to shoot him.

[thefactor]

this is the smaller version. looks very concealable.

[The Electrician]

"It is very disturbing," said Councilman Jack Weiss. "If any member of the public is shot with one of these guns or, heaven forbid, a cop is shot with one these guns, what would be the explanation?"

Symbolism over substance rears its foolish head again.

The only disturbing thing about this incident is that someone with a child's level of understanding of the world has somehow stepped into a government position that ought to have been reserved for adults...

[tet68]

“It is very disturbing,” said Councilman Jack Weiss. “If any member of the public is shot with one of these guns or, heaven forbid, a cop is shot with one these guns, what would be the explanation?”

Let me guess, deprived childhood? Poverty? Racist oppression?

Liberals, they are so transparent.

[elkfersupper]

Sometimes it is. Not all “suspects” are guilty. Some may be very innocent.

Agreed.

[Ol' Sox]

This isn’t the first time Kimber has marketed a pistol designed to LAPD specs. An earlier model, the Custom II TLE (Tactical Law Enforcement) had LAPD SWAT input in its design - most notably the serrated front of the grip, the Mepro tritium dot sights and match barrel. I really like mine :)

[Wneighbor]

City leaders criticize the modified version of a gun originally made for an elite unit of the Los Angeles Police Department that has a history of fatal shootings.

So, for instance, a history of non-fatal, near-miss shootings is better for us? I think not? Looked at one of those SIS pretties at the local gun shop a few days ago. Nice. I keep asking for something like that for Christmas. Guess I have to start reminders for my birthday now.

[kenth]

Why would anyone have their underwear in a bunch over this? Especially civil rights “leaders”; it seems like a great tool to protect one’s civil rights.

[theymakemesick]

Heaven forbid that we mere subjects be allowed protect ourselves with the same weapons the government is allowed to use against us.

[An Old Man]

Ya gotta love that SS design on the slide! Must be for the LAPD™ SS Detectives.

I bet this Policeman would be proud to have one of his own.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

[WOBBLY BOB]

they should save $ to make libs happy with these:

[VR-21]

"Heaven forbid that we mere subjects be allowed protect ourselves with the same weapons the government is allowed to use against us."

Nailed it. I also agree with your tagline.

[Secret Agent Man]

Civic leaders went on to say that while they would be outraged if their police were likked with these guns, all the hundreds of other gun models held by criminals were perfectly acceptable substitutes for shooting an officer with. “What’s wrong with a sawed-off shotgun?” one remarked with wonder.

/sarc

[Secret Agent Man]

It’s not like this gun is any better than any other 1911 model. It just has a dorky SIS pattern at the front and back of the slide.

[Hot Tabasco]

the modified version of a gun ......that has a history of fatal shootings.

Sounds like an endorsement to me. Isn't that what they're made for?

[jmq]

LOL>>>RALMAO.......milk thru the nose ........

[JimC214]

At one time the most dangerous gun to the Pols was the Cheap Saturday Night special. And now it’s a custom made expensive weapon. I wish they’d make up there minds. Sort of like global warming is now climate change. Just reword the BS to suit there agenda and presto chango the masses won’t notice. Man are they delusional.

[Hot Tabasco]

Sig Arms (Sig Sauer) P220R Carry Equinox FNS - Semi-Auto, Double Action, Compact, 45ACP, 3.9" barrel, Alloy, 2-Tone, Laminate Grips, 2 8rd Mags included, Tac Rail, Fired Case, Decocker, Fixed Night Sights Rear Only

[dschapin]

Wow, that is really funny.