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Great Britain: Organs to be taken without consent (PM Brown favors "presumed consent" )
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | January 12, 2008 | Patrick Hennessy and Laura Donnelly

Posted on 01/12/2008 1:45:31 PM PST by Stoat

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To: Stoat

"We're here for your liver"

Mark

41 posted on 01/12/2008 2:45:16 PM PST by MarkL
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To: Max in Utah

If you don’t own your body, what do you own?

Drug laws, anyone? Anyone?


42 posted on 01/12/2008 2:45:45 PM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
How scary is it that they would rather go this route instead of having a public information campaign on being a donor. Instead of even trying the non-totalitarian route first, they go straight to the STATE KNOWS mode as their default.

A public information campaign involves unpleasant expenses such as for the printing of brochures and the filming of TV ads,  and also that pesky business of an informed patient exercising refusal which can play havoc with donation target quotas.

This plan is so much more streamlined and cost-effective don't you think?

43 posted on 01/12/2008 2:53:48 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

England is the native land of Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley, the author of “Frankenstein”, so this story makes macabre sense.


44 posted on 01/12/2008 2:54:55 PM PST by devere
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To: pogo101
So. Can we 'ave your liver then?"

Only if I can have my guns back first.

45 posted on 01/12/2008 2:55:42 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Max in Utah
What happens when the medical schools need more cadavers, will the government just take your carcass?

If they project a need for thousands more, all they need to do is to massage the stats pertaining to acceptance to kidney dialysis treatments a half-percentage point or so.

They would all have died eventually anyway, what difference does a decade or so either way make?

46 posted on 01/12/2008 2:59:52 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: tcrlaf
And it’s not a very bg jump to go from there, to LIVING donors without thier consent..

And who are you to suggest that The State should be deprived of your organs if they are needed?

Are you suggesting that The State does not have your best interests at heart and would act in a cavalier manner?

After The State has educated you and brought you along through every facet of your life, this is how you repay The State's benevolence?  What an ungrateful slob you must be, after all you have been given.  You should be completely ashamed of yourself.

Your lack of gratitude may cause us to reconsider your Grandmother's application for kidney dialysis treatments.  You will be informed of our amended decision via form letter and postal mail.

47 posted on 01/12/2008 3:19:37 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Thanks! I have been considering branching out into organ dealing, as I already have the donors strapped into the chairs, and can knock ‘em out in short order. I’ll just say the stitches and pain is due to deep roots!


48 posted on 01/12/2008 3:32:49 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

LMAO!

I see know what became of those three feet of my colon that mysteriously went missing after my last root canal......


49 posted on 01/12/2008 3:37:49 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Gosh, I just knew somebody like you would show up.

Transplants are too expensive? Well, so is saving a child born months too early. Millions sometimes. Many families are either bankrupted by it or you end up helping pay for it. Are you also in favor of letting that child go or doing an abortion? If not, what’s the difference between that and your objections to transplants?

Quality of life is low? You know, most people in comas or vegetative states have an even lower quality of life, and their care also bankrupts families or puts a burden on other folks. So should we just cut off all that expensive equipment or maybe starve them to death? If not, what’s the difference?

Remember that both of the above situations also generate BIG bucks for select people.

The woman who got the pancreas of a dear relative of mine has since had a child, something she couldn’t do before. She could reject the pancreas and die any time now, but she has a child. You would deny her and her husband that? I never heard about the folks who got the kidneys and liver, but can only hope they had similar good results.


50 posted on 01/12/2008 3:48:22 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BTW, I do NOT support forcing anybody to donate organs.


51 posted on 01/12/2008 3:49:30 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
Gosh, I just knew somebody like you would show up.

And I, in turn, knew that a self-righteous twit like you would show up, who is oh so generous when it comes to other peoples' money.

People like you are going to see to it that we are all slaves to the health care industry.

52 posted on 01/12/2008 4:01:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("It takes very little to govern good people. Very little. And bad people can't be governed at all.")
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To: Stoat

You’d be surprised how much sausage could be packed into that 3 feet of your colon.


53 posted on 01/12/2008 4:14:04 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Stoat

>> I see know what became of those three feet of my colon that mysteriously went missing after my last root canal......

Now you have a semi-colon.


54 posted on 01/12/2008 4:14:28 PM PST by Fiona MacKnight
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To: Stoat

One result will be that the practical definition of “death” will be eased up a bit, maybe a lot, for lots of folks.


55 posted on 01/12/2008 4:21:19 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Stoat

"But I'm not dead yet!"

56 posted on 01/12/2008 4:23:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Fiona MacKnight
Now you have a semi-colon.

Go to your room!

57 posted on 01/12/2008 4:29:05 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Stoat

“Your lack of gratitude may cause us to reconsider your Grandmother’s application for kidney dialysis treatments. You will be informed of our amended decision via form letter and postal mail.”

Relax comrade...
That can be cured with a simple “donation” to the right Apparatchik at the DNC Politburo, and a couple of extra Vodka rations...

The more corrupt the Democrat, the cheaper they are to buy...


58 posted on 01/12/2008 4:42:03 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: Stoat

Ethics abuse potential?


59 posted on 01/12/2008 4:58:13 PM PST by Floyd Rivers
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To: MARTIAL MONK
>> Now you have a semi-colon.

> Go to your room!

Can't claim originality for that one, but I couldn't resist.

60 posted on 01/12/2008 5:13:01 PM PST by Fiona MacKnight
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