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FRED: 'HUCKABEE SUPPORTED DEMOCRATS'
MSNBC First Read ^

Posted on 01/12/2008 1:40:02 PM PST by jaybeegee

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To: counterpunch

So, you object to securing the border. Hunter supports legal immigration - he just wants to close down the border so that we don’t have illegal immigration. Do you support illegal immigration?


121 posted on 01/12/2008 4:25:34 PM PST by dschapin
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

So if we don’t agree with you we’re not astute eh?...:)

There’s a difference...working with Democrats to help pass Conservative interests, and working with Democrats to pass Liberal interests...

It is crystal clear which one Mitten Luther and the GUBERnator were engaged in.


122 posted on 01/12/2008 4:26:10 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: dschapin

I’m not passing judgement good or bad, just pointing out that Hunter, *uckabee, and Ron Paul are all Buchananites in their own rights.
The point is simply that Hunter will throw his support to fellow Buchananite *uckabee at the convention, and NOT a “CFR candidate” like Thompson or Romney.


123 posted on 01/12/2008 4:27:27 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Hardly...although it was a nice attempt and above poopie jokes.


124 posted on 01/12/2008 4:27:31 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: Khepri

Define populism - because if the Republican party gets rid of all populism it will be only the party of old, rich, white men and it will get creamed every election. This party was founded by people who cared about ending the social injustice of slavery and if you kick the social conservatives out of the party then this party will go the way of the Whig party it replaced and fall into dustbin of history.


125 posted on 01/12/2008 4:28:40 PM PST by dschapin
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To: MichiganWoodsman

Well, I’m not sure about the rest of the Fredhead’s but I’ve said from the beginning I would not sell out the troops by helping ensure a Democrat wins...

No dying in vain. No wars for nothing. No cutting and running.


126 posted on 01/12/2008 4:31:55 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: counterpunch

Its certainly possibly, Huckabee and Buchanan care a lot more about social issues like abortion then Thompson seems to. Buchanan and Hunter would have some similar views on trade though Hunter does not support nearly as high of tarriffs as Buchanan would. However, Hunter would strongly disagree with Buchanan’s foreign policy and I doubt he would endorse Huckabee since foreign policy is one of Huckabee’s weaknesses. Hunter would also disagree with Huckabee’s record of fiscal liberalism, but would probably support the platform that Huckabee is running on now.


127 posted on 01/12/2008 4:32:35 PM PST by dschapin
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To: counterpunch

I will admit that I initially supported Buchanan, however, untill it became clear that he was somewhat anti-semitic and would not support Israel. Other than that I really liked a lot of what he had to say.


128 posted on 01/12/2008 4:35:23 PM PST by dschapin
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To: dschapin
Cut the canards. That dog won't hunt.
With the exception of McCain, there is very little daylight between the candidates on the border. Everyone is talking tough on the border. Even McCain says first we need to secure the border. He just so happens to not say what comes next (amnesty).

The real daylight between the Hunter/*uckabee/Buchanan wing and the rest of the mainstream GOP field is trade protectionism vs. so-called "globalism".
 
129 posted on 01/12/2008 4:36:46 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: dschapin

I didn’t say anything about kicking social conservatives out of the party...

I SAID KICK HUCKABEE TO THE CURB....to me there’s a difference.

Hopefully I don’t need to popint out to you how well conservatism has served the Republican party.

“When we’ve strayed, we’ve paid” - Fred Thompson


130 posted on 01/12/2008 4:37:22 PM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

worthless.


131 posted on 01/12/2008 4:48:03 PM PST by Eddie01 (Freepers don't let Freepers get spun)
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To: the808bass
"You will notice he is responding to criticism from your boy. Why is that wrong?"

He hit me back first! -- Dennis the Menace

132 posted on 01/12/2008 4:52:25 PM PST by Hunton Peck (Fred: He's the real thing.)
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To: Khepri

You used the undefined term populism and I wasn’t sure exactly what you meant by it. People say that Huckabee’s candidacy is fueled by populism and most of his supporters are social conservatives who care more about ending abortion than any “frederalism” concerns that may raise. So, I wondered if it was views like that you meant when you refered to populism.


133 posted on 01/12/2008 4:55:02 PM PST by dschapin
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To: Khepri

You used the undefined term populism and I wasn’t sure exactly what you meant by it. People say that Huckabee’s candidacy is fueled by populism and most of his supporters are social conservatives who care more about ending abortion than any “frederalism” concerns that may raise. So, I wondered if it was views like that you meant when you refered to populism.


134 posted on 01/12/2008 4:55:06 PM PST by dschapin
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
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Huck is a liberal.

135 posted on 01/12/2008 4:57:56 PM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: counterpunch

The only reason I mentioned immigration is that it was one of the ways that you said Hunter fit the Buchanon wing of the party. Your statement kind of confused me because I thought Hunters position on Immigration was orthodoxy but that is why I addressed it. As to trade - there is a difference between the level of tarriff’s that Hunter supports and the level that Buchanon supported but I will grant that there is a large degree of similarity. I see that as a good thing - you obviously see it as a bad thing. I think that a country which doesn’t seek to protect its government and industry is doing failing in its job - you obviously don’t agree.


136 posted on 01/12/2008 4:58:04 PM PST by dschapin
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Huckabee is not a pure, hard-core conservative on all the issues

That's the understatement of the year.

137 posted on 01/12/2008 4:58:11 PM PST by Texas Federalist (Taxes get so depressed when they hear Fred Thompson is in charge that they cut themselves.)
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To: dragonblustar

That is a cute graph. Howver, Huck’s positions on social issues show that his faith actually means something to him unlike Carter who actually supported abortion. Also, to my knowledge there have been no allegations that Huck has engaged in adultery unlike Clinton who was a rapist and serial adulteror.


138 posted on 01/12/2008 4:59:32 PM PST by dschapin
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To: dragonblustar

I think you can eliminate the second factor in your equation and it would be more accurate. Huckabee doesn’t disagree with Jimmy Carter on any issues I can think of.


139 posted on 01/12/2008 5:00:28 PM PST by Texas Federalist (Taxes get so depressed when they hear Fred Thompson is in charge that they cut themselves.)
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To: dschapin

If Huck had any moral standing, he would remain solid on issues instead of flip flopping. He’s a tax and spend liberal that supports illegals over Americans.


140 posted on 01/12/2008 5:05:50 PM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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