Sheriff defends capture of boy by SWAT team

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 12, 2008 | Bob Unruh

[freemike]

The Colorado sheriff who dispatched a SWAT team to break into a family's home, hold them at gunpoint and take custody of an 11-year-old boy for a medical exam sought by Social Services is defending the actions, saying the boy's father told officers to "bring an army" if they returned.

[freemike]

Well,, Yes,, I know, I know, it's WND. I posted the original article so I thought I should post the follow up. The plot thickens. The other side is having their say now. My thoughts are the following,, all the arguments about the Dad making wacky statements aside,, in the end,, the father was RIGHT about the condition of his son. He was fine. Could not these paramedics see that??? Could not this sheriff see that?? Just as in the case of Waco and Ruby Ridge and God only knows how many other instances,, is it not a little possible that all these so called professionals are PUSHING a situation into a violent end?? That there is a little bit of this mindset that "We are in charge of the situation, not you!" From the paramedics to the social services to the judge to the Sheriff to the SWAT team??!! Sure,, maybe the family is a little nutty. That would make it all the easier for them to know how to do the pushing and would make it all the more difficult for a so called "expert" paramedic to yield their so called decision making authority to some scruffy constitutional loving trailer park living homeschooling nut! The paramedic went to college! He's trained in these kinds of things! This guy is just a Dad in a trailer! How dare he tell the paramedic his son is OK! The same goes with the social service "professional!" How dare some hick family tell the county to go screw themselves! How dare some Bible quoting nut tell me the sheriff I can't trespass! Why such a mindset?? We all know why. The rights of the individual are under attack and have been for decades! We are too stupid to know what we should be eating,, what we should be wearing, what we should be driving, where we should be living, what we should be thinking! We are too stupid! Too stupid to know what is good for us! Too stupid to be in charge! "How dare some scruffy old religious nut actually think he has more power or has the right to tell me to go screw myself! I am a caseworker! I am a state employee! I am a professional! I am a judge! I am the sheriff! I have guns and can break down their doors, force them to the floor and shoot if I felt I had too!! I am smart! I am powerful! I will show these nuts who is in charge! I will teach them not to mess with me!" Just a thought.

[Bulldawg Fan]

I dont blame the Sheriff here, he did what he had to do to protect his own folks. The blame rests on the Nanny state that would bring this sort of thing to us.

[the invisib1e hand]

Some of us have our own "SWAT" stories; mine from Florida dating back to the mid '80's.

When I made my complaint to the "brass," they informed me that "the officers said that never happened."

What's striking is how uniform the stories seem to be, no matter where they're from.

Why do SWAT teams demonstrate such striking similarities in tactics, lack of good judgment, brute force, terrorizing citizens, and blatant disregard for liberty anywhere in the country?

Who trained them all to do this? Why?

[r9etb]

Rants read better when they're not all scrunched together, mike.

And, as suspected, there is more to the story ... as there always is in cases like this.

The problem is this: the kid has injuries that have been reported as possible abuse. By law, the authorites have to make a visit. They show up, and the dad gets belligerent. Dad's already been spotted chasing a burglary suspect down the road with an axe, and I have to think he's got more of a reputation for violence than that. And now he refuses entry to the cops, and threatens violence if they return.

Now put yourself in the sheriff's shoes: the law says you need to go there, and the resident has threatened violence. So what do you do?

[the invisib1e hand]

The blame rests on the Nanny state that would bring this sort of thing to us.

Oh, I see. But being an instrument of the Nanny State absolves one of culpability?

By that logic, Hitler was just a servant. Don't blame him.

[the invisib1e hand]

Now put yourself in the sheriff's shoes

Might-Makes-Right alert.

[Hoof Hearted]

I guess I’m supposed to be outraged at the sheriff’s actions with the SWAT team, but I’m not. The father is a trouble maker and a jerk who seems to delight in creating unrest.

[DocRock]

[r9etb]

Why not try answering the question: you're the sheriff and you're required to go there, and the resident is threatening violence. What do you do?

An honest man would answer the question. Are you honest?

[sitetest]

From reading the article, and the “sheriff’s” e-mail contained therein, it is apparent that the “sheriff” is not only a good little fascist, but an illiterate good little fascist. Probably a product of our public school system.

[DocRock]

"I guess I’m supposed to be outraged at the sheriff’s actions with the SWAT team, but I’m not. The father is a trouble maker and a jerk who seems to delight in creating unrest."

So... we're just going to wad up the Constitution and use it for toilet paper because the father is a trouble maker and a jerk. If I read the original article correctly, he also worked with medics in Vietnam and was fully capable of treating his own child.

[freemike]

I never know how to do spacing. Someone else told me that once.

[digger48]

Nosy neighbors and social services are a bad combination, at times.

[Balding_Eagle]

That’s a pretty good summary of what this is all about.

This is a war for our freedoms, this incident a skirmish in that war.

That father will be doing all of us a favor if he sues the bejusbus out of everyone involved.

[digger48]

I read the original article correctly, he also worked with medics in Vietnam and was fully capable of treating his own child.

he was also correct in his diagnosis AND treatment.

[the invisib1e hand]

An honest man would answer the question. Are you honest?

you forgot, "and have you stopped beating your wife?"

[the balance deleted by an act of grace].

[Balding_Eagle]

What to do?

IT’S ALREADY ANSWERED FOR YOU!

See post #8

[driftdiver]

‘I dont blame the Sheriff here, he did what he had to do to protect his own folks”

I blame him the ‘I was only following orders’ line has led to millions of deaths worldwide. There was NO threat made to the police. The Sheriffs original reason to use SWAT was that the father was a “Constitutionalist” which is hogwash. The father was cooperating with the police immediately prior to the attack by SWAT.

A real Peace Officer would have told the father he had a warrant and that he needed to take the child to the hospital. A real Peace Officer would have allowed the mother or father to accompany the child. A real Peace Officer would not have thrust weapons in the face of every child and adult in the place and body slammed several.

No this guy is a Law EnFORCEment officer. I hope this Sheriff suffers great public humiliation and ends up living under a bridge after getting fired. Jail is probably too much to hope for.

[SpaceBar]

we wuz jus folowin orers