ancient history (if true and I have doubts) I was talking relevant history since we invaded and occupied Iraq over wmd that werten’t there.NO SHIA suicide bombers. Its important in determining the excuse for occupying another country with your kids and your money. Don’t you think its important?
I. Your first point: Shi’ia suicide bombers
Israel is rocked by suicide bombers who are shi’ia. We have been attacked by suicide bombers who are shi’ia. In Iraq you have suicide attacks on convoys etc. by people who are shi’ia.
What you are doing now is engaging in the act of “redefining” what you said so that you can save face. Even in the spirit of what you are now trying to redefine your words of having meant, you are still wrong.
If you keep narrowing it down you might eventually be right. Exclude suicide attacks that failed, men, with rifle or RPG, outside Iraq, and in the past you can be right with the statement: “There have been no successful Iraqi Shi’ia suicide bombers in Iraq since we invaded.” Send me your email address in private and I can send you a video from where we shot dead three shi’ia men trying to do a suicide attack on a traffic control point near Sadr City (Nov 2003). But since this was no attack with a “bomb,” rather small arms and RPGs your definition would not apply.
II. Your second point: The liberal battle cry “No WMD!”
Then you engage in the act of singling out one single aspect and ignoring everything else to make some moot point which is intended to attack the legitimacy of the action in Iraq.
• What is proven is that Iraq had missiles in excess of the maximum range allowed by UN mandate, as they fired them into Kuwait at the begin of the war.
• That Saddam was paying money to families of suicide bombers who were attacking targets in Israel (Some of them Shi’ia BTW – but never mind that we exclude that from our narrow definition right?).
• That US planes enforcing the no-fly zones were being engaged nearly on a weekly basis with AAA and SAMs.
• That he violated the no fly and no wheel zones on various occasions and we had to build up troops several times in response.
• That UN weapon inspectors were restricted and harassed to the point where they were unable to perform their assigned duties and left.
• That various terrorists involved in past attacks such as the Achila Laura and various others were living as free men in Baghdad with the knowledge of this regime.
Furthermore, you might want to read the report on Iraq and WMD, because it does not state there “were no WMD,” an oversimplified generalization stated in the media but not stated in the CIA and Congressional reports. In fact some WMD have indeed been found and even a media that attempts to spin it usually refers to it as “No **substantial** amounts of WMD were found” (Newsweek 2004). Maybe you can tell the two soldiers exposed to Sarin gas in 2004 that their injuries are “minor” like the media did (This came after the Newsweek article): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808 But you’re probably right. There were absolutely no WMD found – None what so ever.
Summary
In both points you or those feeding you the horse $hit are simply playing games by redefining the scenario so that you can make some point which is moot anyhow. By narrowing the scope you eventually focus on one aspect WMD; since this is the one point where the anti-war agenda at least thinks they have an argument. You then define Shi’ia attacks only in recent times, in Iraq, and only those that use bombs, so that you can paint some picture that isn’t accurate. Let me clue you in, Muqtada al Sadr and his militia are Shi’ia. Iran which is partially financing, logistically supporting an insurgency and some Militia’s is Shi’ia. You have terrorist groups in Iraq that are Shi’ia.
You’re attempting to make some points on false premises which are essentially moot anyhow. We can not cut our losses with Iraq because the price would be too high. May it be the instability of the Middle East, the rise in power for Iran and Russia, loss in confidence in the US world wide, the massive humanitarian disaster that would ensue, the loss over vital strategic resources which would now fall under a despot regime may it be Iraq or Iran power based…….. there is no alternative besides foreword and establishing a self governing and sustaining republic of Iraq. There is no option, we must finish Iraq and achieve a positive resolution.
Mohammed Bouyeri is shi’ia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)
He shot and stabbed Theo van Gogh dead because he produced a film critical of Islam.
But since this was not in Iraq, since this wasn’t a suicide bombing, this does not count according to your “definition.”
I really have to know!
Are you:
• The Ron Paul voter.
• A DU plant dropping liberal innuendoes on a conservative blog.
Seeing how you attempt to string together money and illegitimacy (The talking points of the Ron Paul camp) I assume that’s where you stand.