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Top U.S. Evangelical Leader: All Involved with IVF Responsible for "Vast Human Tragedy"
LifeSiteNews ^ | 1/11/08 | John Connolly

Posted on 01/11/2008 5:17:13 PM PST by wagglebee

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"Human embryos are being produced, almost factory-like, and then routinely destroyed or indefinitely frozen," he observed. "This phenomenon might be described as an unintended complication of the IVF technology. Nevertheless, all involved in this technology are responsible for this vast human tragedy, intended or not."

Very well said.

1 posted on 01/11/2008 5:17:17 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 01/11/2008 5:17:51 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 01/11/2008 5:18:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Naturally, we usually get one chance a month. That ought to be good enough for IVF


4 posted on 01/11/2008 5:21:20 PM PST by CindyDawg
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Not following you. How does the one chance per month relate to IVF? Thanks.


5 posted on 01/11/2008 5:25:47 PM PST by plain talk
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6 posted on 01/11/2008 5:26:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It wouldn’t be as much a tradgedy if people did one or two eggs at a time and implanted them both. Unfortunately they would rather save a few $$$.


7 posted on 01/11/2008 5:26:50 PM PST by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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To: wagglebee

Oh, and as a Catholic, it’s nice to hear from our prot bretheren in this issue.


8 posted on 01/11/2008 5:27:24 PM PST by mbraynard (Tagline changed due to admin request)
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A Baptist that is sounding like a Catholic. Good!!


9 posted on 01/11/2008 5:27:54 PM PST by rose
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Only fertilize one egg. If it takes, great. If not, try again next month.


10 posted on 01/11/2008 5:32:01 PM PST by CindyDawg
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I’ve read a lot of Mohler’s stuff, he definitely sounds more like a Catholic on many issues than any other Baptists I am aware of.


11 posted on 01/11/2008 5:33:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Not sure why you’re saying he sounds Catholic. He’s Baptist with a strong Reformed influence. Christendom is better off because of him.


12 posted on 01/11/2008 5:38:40 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Theo
Not sure why you’re saying he sounds Catholic. He’s Baptist with a strong Reformed influence. Christendom is better off because of him.

I am aware of that; however, many Catholics comment that his views sound more Catholic than Protestant.

I agree that Christendom is better because of him. However, I wonder, are you implying that the Catholic Church IS NOT part of Christendom?

13 posted on 01/11/2008 5:41:37 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Yes, this is in agreement with the Catholic position on IVF. But it’s hard to see how a committed Christian can come to any other conclusion once he really looks into the matter. IVF involves killing, and it also involves unnatural procedures.

Certainly Protestants back in the time of the Reformation would have agreed that IVF is a violation of natural law. And since then, modern science has shown that an embryo is a living human person, until it is killed.

Catholics were also the earliest to come out against abortion, after Roe v. Wade, but Southern Baptists are now, if anything, more fervent about that than many Catholics. These are issues that believing Christians can agree about.


14 posted on 01/11/2008 5:42:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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(RE: Post #9 A Baptist that is sounding like a Catholic. Good!)

How does pinging a Baptist to a pro life thread
make him sound like a Catholic?


15 posted on 01/11/2008 5:42:27 PM PST by WKB (FDT= Alabama's song from1982 He's "Close Enough To Perfect For Me")
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Dr. Mohler is clearly a first-rate thinker. I'd say that theologically he's ----as you say, Theo--- Baptist/Reformed, and on moral issues (as much as I have seen so far) his principles and positions are identical to Catholic ones.

Like Chuck Colson, he also has a talent for making complex issues simple and clear, which takes a kind of genius.

I visit Dr. Mohler's blog fairly regularly. It's an intellectual treat.

16 posted on 01/11/2008 5:50:35 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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Only fertilize one egg. If it takes, great. If not, try again next month. >>

yea, but that is not the case with IVF.


17 posted on 01/11/2008 5:57:45 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year!!)
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I know. I’m saying it should be though.


18 posted on 01/11/2008 5:58:59 PM PST by CindyDawg
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I know. I’m saying it should be though. >>>

It can’t, the IVF procedure would never work, and that is why many religions are against the procedure since more than one embryo is created during the procedure.


19 posted on 01/11/2008 6:00:49 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Healthy New Year!!)
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Why couldn’t it work?


20 posted on 01/11/2008 6:03:02 PM PST by CindyDawg
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