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If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?
January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?

Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.

Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.

Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.

Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.

Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.

Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!


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To: BlackElk

Well, I disagree with the point about Rudy, certainly over McCain whose record shows contempt for the Republican party and this President in particular. No one changes my view on life and guns and quite frankly these issues won’t go anywhere in the next 4 years unless we get a democrat, but if we don’t elect a PRO-ISRAEL President, America can just kiss it ALL goodby. The Middle East is where the focus is on the WAR on Terror and we’ve GOT to have somebody in there who UNDERSTANDS the BIG picture. McCain would be ok in the defense dept, but NOT as President. Rudy gets it on the BIG issues - Israel, terrorism, tax cuts, and smaller gov’t. Huckabee is not Presidential material, Romney will speak to his lawyers before taking int’l action, and McCain I know to be a selfish politician, concerned for himself first.


561 posted on 01/12/2008 2:08:21 PM PST by princess leah
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To: llevrok

First do no harm. Don’t vote for a third party. A vote for a third party is a vote for Shrillery or Osama. Haven’t we learned our lesson with the first Clintoon presidency?


562 posted on 01/12/2008 2:15:46 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Same for me. With lots of praying along the way.


563 posted on 01/12/2008 3:57:43 PM PST by MonicaG ((Duncan Hunter))
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To: rockrr
Sorry, but I don’t “settle” And although I’m willing to compromise, not with my principles thank you!. I intend to cast my vote for Fred, even if I have to write it in...

Voting for Thompson would be a compromise of Conservative principles.
564 posted on 01/12/2008 5:38:40 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I like how you think.


565 posted on 01/12/2008 5:39:50 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Jim Robinson

If Hunter is on the ballot in Michigan, I am voting for him. None of the rest of the R’s can be trusted to be anything but RINOs, including Fred. I like him a lot, but I look at all that he has done in the past and now he wants me to believe he’ll be different.


566 posted on 01/12/2008 5:41:04 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: A1 Southern Man
The only thing we can do is to give all we can to Fred.

You'd be far better off giving to Duncan Hunter. He is the only Conservative left in the GOP race
567 posted on 01/12/2008 5:42:14 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: crz
We get behind whoever is nominated..end of story.

That type of thinking has caused the GOP to be in its current predicament. The result is increasingly socialistic candidates such as Thompson, McCain, Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee and Paul. The GOP must support Duncan Hunter if it has any hope of returning to Conservatism.
568 posted on 01/12/2008 5:46:31 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: OldEagle
But what we really need to worry about is getting more seats in both houses.

Republicans paramount concern should be returning to what once was its Conservative base.
569 posted on 01/12/2008 5:48:58 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D
The GOP must support Duncan Hunter if it has any hope of returning to Conservatism.

BUMP THAT! Hunter is the ONLY Reaganite in the field.

570 posted on 01/12/2008 5:52:34 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: roamer_1
BUMP THAT! Hunter is the ONLY Reaganite in the field.


571 posted on 01/12/2008 5:59:47 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Man50D

Your opinion, not mine. FWIW: I do not believe it would be a compromise to support either man...


572 posted on 01/12/2008 6:01:55 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim ? I will write in Fred Thompson’s name regardless...


573 posted on 01/12/2008 6:36:06 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Man50D

“You’d be far better off giving to Duncan Hunter. He is the only Conservative left in the GOP race”

It would take about $500,000,000.00 to get Hunter up to 10% and then what?


574 posted on 01/12/2008 9:59:36 PM PST by A1 Southern Man (Fred Thompson , the one who can win.)
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To: Leisler; Jim Robinson; doug from upland; StarFan; stanz; RaceBannon; Dutchy; NautiNurse
I have read that about half of all Federal Judges are on our side. We need to lock in 1/3 of the entire federal power structure, the Supreme Court. We are two justices away.

If the Dems get in, we get set back for a decade, maybe two.

If we( Conservatives ) get the Justices, we can undo a lot of the damage the Marxists have done for the past hundred years.

We can really reap in a few years. I’ll support who ever is the Republican is, for the promise of the supremes.

We're in the same camp, Leisler. The thought of Obama or - heaven forbid - Hillary Clinton - appointing even one Supreme Court justice is beyond frightening to us. We're voting for whoever the GOP nominee will be... unless it's that kook Ron Paul, of course...

nutmeg & zelig

575 posted on 01/12/2008 10:02:28 PM PST by nutmeg (Imagine Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama as Commander-in-Chief.... {{shudder}})
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To: colorado tanker

IMHO, there is an unholy alliance between Huckabee and McPain. Huck’s mission is to knock Fred and Mitt out and in return he probably gets VP from McPain.

That’s sounds about right. My worry is after Hitlery cheats her way into the race it will be a Huckabee/McCain ticket with the mantra being “Good vs. Evil”. And we all now that will be the biggest joke of the year.

Lord help us...


576 posted on 01/12/2008 10:40:57 PM PST by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: Guenevere

http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1344.cfm

Amazing that Hope, Arkansas....home of the Huckster is right in the middle of this Clintonian Map.

Gun Control is about to be mainstream.


577 posted on 01/12/2008 10:57:36 PM PST by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: nutmeg

That’s superb advice and I’m with you.


578 posted on 01/13/2008 6:57:34 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well at least we can count on Huckabee to yap Hillary to death.

Lordy Jim...

I'm opening an account in Sweden with what little I have left.

Mamma dollar and Pappa dollar.

579 posted on 01/13/2008 11:51:41 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Jim Robinson

You must have forgotten McCain’s terrorist protection bill he pushed through Congress.

‘Unilateral Disarmament’

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110007692

President Bush has apparently capitulated on the “torture” issue, agreeing to accept, with only slight modifications, Sen. John McCain’s amendment that would ban “cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment” of terrorists in U.S. custody. CNN quotes McCain: “I think that this will help us enormously in winning the war for the hearts and minds of people throughout the world in the war on terror.”


580 posted on 01/21/2008 8:09:34 PM PST by FocusNexus
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