Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?
Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.
Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.
Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.
Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.
Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.
Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.
So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.
Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.
Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!
Oh please, you’re talking to someone who has a LONG line of military service and a son who served in Iraq and this family knows damn well about what patriotism means. I’m standing beside my country, period. And I know dang well exactly what a Democrat win will do to this country, our military and the future of our children and grandchildren. I place that above all else. Period. And that means the Democrats CANNOT take over the presidency!
Does it go back to serving beside then General Washington during the American Revolution? Mine does. You ain't standing by the country, you're standing by Rats with lipstick and demanding everyone else put your shade of it on.
Well, I don't cotton to dressed up rats....they still be rats.
A babe? Your comment says a lot about you. I've lived on this earth longer than two months, SONNY, and your comment isn't worth a hill of beans.
lol
And you think yours does?
not.
Go play with someone else, nicky.
expend your lectures on someone else, babe.
I will, BABY.
fofl!
Is it really a choice between sick and dead? REALLY? I am not so sure. I don't think Hillary is strong enough to pull a Wilson/FDR/LBJ type of leap. I think that McCain, on the other hand, is strong enough to pull off that sort of thing. His idol is Teddy Roosevelt, the first real anti-free market, big government Republican.
A President Hillary will have two choices: Feed the insatiable socialists in the nut roots or attempt to expand socialism by increments. If she doesn't feed the nuts she will face internecine battles that will rage far beyond those in today's Republican party. If she does feed the commie nutball nutroots, she will anger and alienate the people and face neutering from a Republican wave in congress. If so, perhaps this time around the Republicans can live up to the promises they made in 94.
Then again, maybe she lets some terrorists set a nuke off in flyover country, declares martial law, and we all have to learn to march funny. Or maybe she appoints John Edwards to the Supreme Court.
I seriously just threw up in my mouth a little. Blech, just considering either Hillary or McCain as President is turning my stomach. GO FRED!
“Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!”
Here’s to you, Mr. Robinson!
Say a voter is registered to vote in the state of California as “Decline to state”. Should they switch back to registering as a Republican if there’s time before the February primary or should they ask for a Dem ballot to throw a monkey wrench in the plans of the Dems? Inquiring minds want to know.
(spits at the dawg),,,(cockin’ his pistols)...;0(...grrrrrr.
hehehe.
Hold 'em.....you may need the ammo for later. : )
Interesting. I happen to agree about Fred and Hunter. I like both of them and would vote for either in a heartbeat. As of now anyway. I’m undecided on the others. I’m not impressed by any of them. McCain is strong on defense, served in the Military, etc., and I respect that, however I can’t stand anything else about him. My Dad was a WWII vet and couldn’t stand McCain so I’m biased there. I like that Romney is a family man but his voting record concerns me, as does Rudy’s and McCain’s. Rudy was an awesome Mayor for NYC and I respected him, his leadership, especially during 9-11. I think he accomplished wonderful things as Mayor. I don’t know much about Huckabee but what I know I don’t like.
I don’t know who can win against whom come November. I’d rather have a republican with a shot at winning in the election as well as a republican conservative. Thus, I’m really undecided right now unless Hunter or Fred are the choices.
When I’m considering the issues that are most important to me, national defense/security is tops on my list (and that includes border security, no amnesty for illegals, no gun control for civilians who have the right to own and use guns, etc.). Life, or pro life is next, because if we can’t protect the most innocent - the unborn, the children, then we’re so screwed up it’s difficult to see beyond that imo. It’s not about a woman’s right to choose or gender issues, it’s about innocent human life that we just don’t value.
I don’t want Hillary or Obama or Edwards as the next President but I really don’t want a dem majority in Congress either. Politics, and most politicians, suck imo. It’s gone beyond them caring about our country to their individual interests. It’s depressing and disgusting.
I don’t trust any of them at this point.
Thanks for the ping. RINOs are ruining this party.
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On Poll Results and the End of Conservatism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951282/posts
The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
This thread is about President, not Vice President. I don't think that any of these you have listed would make a credible Presidential candidate.
I would be happy to support a Conservative in a third party, however, and in the scenario you bring up, I would hope a third party rises up.
If it is Giuliani, Romney, or McCain, I would almost guarantee a third party would rise up.
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“If there’s no FRed and no Hunter and we’re left with the four headless RINOs, then what?”
God help us.
On the other hand, I think both Mitt and Rudy would like to have the support of all the coalition and if elected would try to genuinely reflect that in their governing. And they both know they do not "measure up" to parts of the party.
That's what I sense based on listening to all the debates and observing all of them on TV etc.
Jim, you said the question was posed to you last night. Was it one of the ones I posted on my vanity thread, or were you asked it also by someone else?
On Poll Results and the End of Conservatism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951282/posts
“If Hunter drops out, he’ll most likely endorse Fred. If Hunter drops, then Fred drops, we will all be pissed if the first scenario comes true, and there is no conservative in the race.”
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