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To: Rick.Donaldson
——First off “Volunteer examiners” (wink wink) go through training courses, and I’ve been to several sessions sponsoring people who are testing. Your remarks are asinine and childish, and blatantly untrue, and your implication that somehow this is “below the table testing” is an outright lie.——

An outright lie, not even near it. The FCC is constantly calling in licensees for reexamination since the inception of “Volunteer Examination” program. If it was just one or two occurrences one would write it off but large numbers of enforcement actions by the FCC recalling examinees for retesting and the almost universal failure for the examinees to appear as requested indicate a system that does not properly vette the applicants qualifications due to procedural failures at a minimum. Take the number of licensees recalled since the inception of Volunteer Examiners. If a college or university had 0.01% of that number of students recalled for re-examination it would be shut down in disgrace. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

Two links below are listed as posted by the Amateur Radio Relay League relative to the many Amateur Radio Enforcement actions of the FCC over Volunteer Examiner sessions gone wrong. More appear on the ARRL site and others can be found on Google.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2002/0727.html

The above posting included notice of six separate license cancellations in two different areas.

The next link below indicates that five individuals from four different states were recalled by the FCC for re-examination.

http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2000/0719.html

It would seem this is a frequent and ongoing problem as published by the Amateur Service’s official representative organization and the FCC.

——As an electronics engineer myself, and a proponent of testing, I can tell you you’re also incorrect on the testing itself.——

I know of no university or college with any credibility that issues degrees at the BS level or above in “Electronics Engineering”. I have seen degrees in “Bachelor of Science in Electronics Engineering Technology” which infers the holder is a technologist and not an engineer. My experience in the past has been when someone states they are an “Electronics Engineer” it is due their not recognizing the difference and have self proclaimed to be an engineer.

——Yes, it is multiple “guess”, but there are still technical calculations that are required for the higher tests (General and Extra). There is no farce about testing as you’re implying. The math, and material is real. While you certainly can sit and memorize several hundred questions (and the 15 dollar books you mentioned don’t always have the newest questions I might add) the ability for most people to do so is beyond a normal person. You MUST know the math, the calculations and the material and understand it.——

You have discredited your own position in the above paragraph.

——You are an ass, and you’re nothing more than a troll. I hold an Amateur Extra Class license, and quite simply, I doubt that you do, or could because you’re an idiot who makes ASSumptions.——

You are entitled to your opinion. I doubt seriously you can comprehend the inference in the previous statement when taken in context with your last paragraph above.

——Mitt Romney on the other hand flip flops on several issues, and he is simply untrustworthy.——

I have heard the rhetoric flying around about Mr. Romney’s alleged political escapades. Can you state with factually based personal knowledge which can be verified from a source with no ax to grind that the current rhetoric ciculating is true? I doubt it. (There I go making an assumption. :-)) Just because the press said it, that some politician said it, that it is written, that Dan Rather said it, that Rush Limbaugh said it or any of the other media sources said it, does not make it true.

If Mitt Romney does not have any respect for the amateur service I do not find his dislike to be unfounded. All I have to do is read the postings at the FCC, ARRL and other websites to see printed factual data indicating the less than mediocre requirements to obtain an amateur license.

207 posted on 01/27/2008 9:04:19 AM PST by Harry_Bwater
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To: Harry_Bwater

Hahaha. you really are an ass. You called me a liar, without proof. “Constantly calling in people for retesting”? No, on OCCASION there are reasons to do so, but guess what? There are testing sessions almost every, single weekend of the year somewhere. We have in my region, one per month. There has NEVER been an incident of the FCC calling someone in for retesting. Furthermore, the FCC doesn’t do that, so you’re the one that is incorrect, they will refuse to issue a license, but, the FCC DOES NOT DO THE TESTING. the testing is sanctioned by the FCC.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Obviously YOUR experience with the term “Electronics engineer” is different from the folks with whom I work. LOL. You really haven’t any clue what you’re talking about - My technical title is “Systems Engineer” and I engineer things down to the component level. But, whatever you wish to believe. Calling MY education into question here doesn’t change the fact that you’re an ass nor that you’re attacking the Amateur Radio service. Mitt ROMNEY is also an ass and apparently ALL of his supporters are ASSES as well.

He did what happened on the video. He’ll not get my vote, and you’re certainly NOT doing much to convince folks otherwise, especially me.

This isn’t about ME, it’s about him.

Apparently, you’re one of those idiot Citizens banders who couldn’t GET an FCC license or something, which is why you’re attacking the Amateur Radio Service and the people in it. I’m sorry you’re not intelligent enough to take a “multiple guess test” and get a license GIVEN to you by a “wink wink” volunteer examiner, but apparently you’re just too ignorant. /shrug

Mitt Romney has made several statements that make him unqualified as a President. All he has to do is apologize for his stupid remarks to make me reconsider him, but at this point if you’re a supporter, and it appears you are, then you’re a very BAD example of the kind of people who support him - and if he is elected President because of you, then I suspect there will be a lot of dumb asses like yourself put into offices


209 posted on 01/28/2008 7:23:40 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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