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Hillary without tears (Camille Paglia on why Hillary won't become President)
Salon.com ^ | 1/10/08 | Camille Paglia

Posted on 01/10/2008 6:15:52 AM PST by notbuyingit2

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To: beaversmom

.....I thought she was crying for herself not the country ....

It is worth noting that she did not actually cry.

The cue card said cry but the best she could do was fake welling up. She lacks the talent to actually pull it off with out the press doing it for her.


41 posted on 01/10/2008 7:33:12 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Yes, they are odd. I noticed years ago the physical differences of libs and pubs. Mostly, libs were dishevled slobs and the women always appeared with minimal or no makeup. Recently, starting prior to the 2006 election, the libs started putting front and center women that were somewhat attractive - Kirsten Powers comes to mind. I think they started to see what others were seeing.


42 posted on 01/10/2008 7:36:12 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: devane617

Listening to Mark Levin’s program from last night. Near the end, he spoke to a female lib. He walked her through parts of the Constitution, which she agreed with and then she says she is going to vote for Hillary anyway because she is a woman. How can you argue with that? What points and logic can you use against something so stupid?


43 posted on 01/10/2008 7:38:16 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: SMARTY

It used to be that way - more or less - befoe the advent of film and television. Some of our earliest - and best - Presidents could never be elected today.


44 posted on 01/10/2008 7:40:44 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: notbuyingit2
I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee of my party, because I want Democrats appointed to the Cabinet and the Supreme Court

I will do the same on the Republican side, and for the same reason.

45 posted on 01/10/2008 7:49:03 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: beaversmom
RUSH: I mentioned before the break of the last hour that Mrs. Clinton's tears, the choked-up moment, was a little calculated -- and I believe this, using intelligence guided by experience. Nothing that happens with the Clintons is coincidence. But the night before the tearful moment, she appeared on Access Hollywood -- also part of the new strategy. She's appeared on Fox twice. She's sitting down doing interviews with people she used to give no time to whatsoever, and she was on Access Hollywood with the info babe Maria Menounos, and Menounos said, "You're not made of steel, are you? You have feelings." Now, remember: this is the night before the choked-up moment.

MRS. CLINTON: It's that difficult position that a woman candidate is in, because if you get too emotional, that undercuts you. A man can cry. We know that. Lots of our leaders have cried but, you know, a woman, that's a different kind of dynamic. You know, I may get a little passionate and carried away from the time, and maybe somebody says, "Well, you know, women shouldn't do that." Well, I disagree with that. It may take some getting used to because we haven't had a woman president, but, um, I'm confident that people are going to say, you know, "Wait a minute. I want a fighter in the White House."

RUSH: And the next day, after having set the stage the night before and sort of given away little hints here at the future, she has the choked-up moment. Been thinking about it. She was thinking about it before she did it. I wouldn't be surprised if she was rehearsed for this, or she had rehearsed. (cont.)



Why Mrs. Clinton's Tears Worked
46 posted on 01/10/2008 7:50:55 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: 7thson

That is the point, logic and democrat cannot be used in the same sentance....they are emotional thinkers void of looking at the facts.

On the occasion they break free of their emtional bondage, they start to look at the world in a more conservative logical way.


47 posted on 01/10/2008 8:05:15 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: altura

I can understand her willingness to vote for Hillary even though she doesn’t like her. I plan to vote republican no matter who the nominee is as I want a republican governmen.

I like Paglia for her insights. She is honest and panders to no one. I don’t agree with her mind set but I emphatically respect her.


48 posted on 01/10/2008 8:08:21 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: altura
Paglia is infuriating. How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court.

Simple: Liberals put their liberalism above everything.

49 posted on 01/10/2008 8:08:48 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks for the transcript.


50 posted on 01/10/2008 8:10:49 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: bert

Yes, not crying as in full blown tears but welled up.


51 posted on 01/10/2008 8:12:07 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: notbuyingit2
"...the inky depths of Hillary Rodham Clinton's warren-riddled psyche."

You're reading way too much into it, Camille. Hillary is not complicated. She is very easy to understand. It's all quite simple and straightforward.

52 posted on 01/10/2008 8:15:18 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: 7thson
I agree. Men like Truman would not ever be elected President in the current political arena. But, I always liked that guy.

He was not from the old DC establishment and not one of their most popular or polished types, but he WAS fitted for the Presidency! BTW-FDR treated that man like something you’s scrape off the bottom of your shoe. Sort of what Bill did to Al and what Kennedy did to Johnson, etc. ... What’s with these Democratic, camera hog and self-sentered prima donas?

53 posted on 01/10/2008 8:16:10 AM PST by SMARTY (Public opinion has the power of the lie/creating it is the work of radical politicians in a democra)
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To: Miss Didi
I wouldn't be surprised if she was rehearsed for this, or she had rehearsed.

Oh, Rush Limbaugh is so insensitive and mean-spirited.

54 posted on 01/10/2008 8:18:10 AM PST by XR7
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To: beaversmom
That’s the irony in the crying ploy, she was crying, but for selfish reasons, a moment of selfish indulgence because all her handlers had told her it might be over if she lost big, and that actually ended up making it looked like she wasn't selfish at all.

She was really crying, because she has looked the other way for 35 years as her husband has trashed their marriage, she let him crap on her time after time, just for her chance to be a big shot and maybe one day even President.. Her entire life focus has been on being a big shot, someone powerful who can order people around, have people constantly make her the center of attention.. She realized at that moment, that her entire life was slipping away from her, that all the abuse she had taken was maybe for nothing. Even a robot would tear up when their entire life’s goal may be going down the drain.

So the reason she was crying was the very reason she’s totally unqualified - she’s shallow, self-centered, mentally unstable, paranoid, delusional. But yet it worked because it was a genuine moment of pain. Not the crap she talked about, that she was working so hard to make the world a better place and she may not be able to do it. She really cares, blah, blah, blah...

It worked by accident, but make no mistake about it, she was crying for selfish reasons, not for the reasons she blurted out.

55 posted on 01/10/2008 8:18:13 AM PST by Beatthedrum
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To: notbuyingit2

“...the stream of working-class women and female subordinates whom Bill Clinton sexually harassed and abused...”

Let me read that again, “...whom Bill Clinton abused...”

Help, legal scholors. Has she crossed the line into libel?

Although she might mean a broader definition she says he sexually harrassed. Not to defend the amoral IMPOTUS, but did he? Is there a conviction? Not that I recall. Can she say it if there wasn’t.

And “abused” seems to be a legal-type term.

What about all of that stuff as discussed in NY v Sullivan and he being a “public figure?”

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/defamation.html

Just curious as to what thin ice (if any) she might be walking upon.


56 posted on 01/10/2008 8:28:37 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: beaversmom

You’re welcome.


57 posted on 01/10/2008 8:30:48 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Savage Beast

I agree that Hillary is very easy to understand (not complicated). What I don’t understand is why so many “sheeple” can’t see through her act(s).


58 posted on 01/10/2008 8:32:37 AM PST by notbuyingit2
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To: notbuyingit2
But Hillary herself, with her thin, spotty record, tangled psychological baggage, and maundering blowhard of a husband, is also a mighty big roll of the dice. She is a brittle, relentless manipulator with few stable core values who shuffles through useful personalities like a card shark ("Cue the tears!").

That description pretty much jibes with the NY Times editorial a few years back endorsing Hillary for Senator, doesn't it...

59 posted on 01/10/2008 8:35:56 AM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: PurpleMan

My guess is that this article was approved by the legal department at Salon.com before it was printed. There is probably plenty of evidence of Bill Clinton’s acts of abuse and harassment, hence, no libel. But, no one wants to press charges and take on a former president.


60 posted on 01/10/2008 8:37:40 AM PST by notbuyingit2
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