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Goldman Sachs: Brace For Recession In 2008
cbs ^ | 01-09-08

Posted on 01/09/2008 10:57:10 PM PST by chronic cough 420

The biggest investment bank on Wall Street has a grim prediction about 2008: a recession is definitely on the way.

Goldman Sachs on Wednesday said it believes the housing slump and recent credit market turmoil will spill over into the broader economy this year. And, by the time it's all over, economists believe the Federal Reserve will cut interest rates to 2.50 percent from its current 4.25 percent.

There is a silver lining to the dire prediction, however, since Goldman projects the economy will recover as soon as 2009, making this downturn somewhat "recession-light."

"The recession is likely to last two to three quarters and should be relatively mild by historical standards, with a cumulative decline in real GDP of only about a half percent," Goldman economists' Jan Hatzius and Ed McKelvey said in a research note.

A recession is when the economy shrinks for six straight months, reports CBS News correspondent Anthony Mason. The last time that happened was 2001 after the dot com bubble burst.

Goldman switched to an "outright recession call" following recent economic reports that indicated a spike in the jobless rate, and a decline in home sales and manufacturing. They also expressed concerns that sluggish consumer spending will contribute to a recession.

The economists expect the Federal Reserve will aggressively lower rates to combat the credit crunch, including a half-point cut at its Jan. 29-30 meeting. The contracting economy is likely to push the unemployment rate to about 6.25 percent by late 2008, potentially hurting corporate earnings.

Goldman also expects that Congress and the Bush Administration will push through a temporary tax break later this year as part of a fiscal stimulus plan.

What would all this do to stocks and bonds?

Economists predict that consumer spending will likely post a small outright decline - unlike in the 2001 recession - as the housing downturn contributes to a negative wealth effect and consumers find it harder to obtain credit.

This will put pressure particularly on stocks in the consumer discretionary, financials, industrials, materials and information technology sectors. Sectors that might offer investors some protection in a recession, however, include health care, consumer staples, energy and utilities.

Meanwhile, bond prices are expected to rally as risk-averse investors pull money out of stocks and boost demand for safer, albeit low-yield, investments. Goldman predicts the yield on the 10-year Treasury note - which moves opposite its price - will fall to 3.5 percent by late summer following interest rate cuts. The 10-year yielded 3.78 percent on Wednesday.

All the recession talk has the markets on edge, reports Mason. Stocks rallied Wednesday, but the both the Dow and the Nasdaq are still down more than 10 percent from their recent highs.

Experts are predicting an ugly 2008 as inventories of unsold homes grow and a large number of adjustable-rate mortgages reset, sending more homeowners scrambling to make higher payments and pressuring the already shaky credit markets. What worries industry watchers the most, however, is the possibility that the housing troubles will plunge the economy into a recession.

"I think everyone is expecting the other shoe to fall. There's still some blood to be let," said Jim Gaines, a research economist at The Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University. "And historically, a downturn in the housing market has been a leading indicator of a recession."


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1 posted on 01/09/2008 10:57:11 PM PST by chronic cough 420
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If this article has already been posted please pull it. For the life of me I couldn’t find anything recent on Free Republic concerning recession worries. I come to this website so that I can read the informed opinions of Freepers, especially on important subjects like this. I hope these type of stories aren’t purposely kept off the site.


2 posted on 01/09/2008 11:01:38 PM PST by chronic cough 420 (MDCXVI)
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To: chronic cough 420

Isn’t Robert Rubin, former Clinton Sec’y of Treasury head of this firm? How much nexus is there to this predition?


3 posted on 01/09/2008 11:11:58 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: chronic cough 420

Goldman Sachs: “But not in China...keep on investing there!”


4 posted on 01/09/2008 11:12:09 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: chronic cough 420

While the folks at goldman as some of the best in the business, you cannot predict such things. It’s still just speculation.


5 posted on 01/09/2008 11:12:31 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: pacpam

what I found interesting was the recent report about how Goldman at the same it was selling CDO’s and other asset backed securities loaded with subprime loans which are now being blamed for a lot of this mess, they were shorting the subprime market.
I find their predictions to be tainted at best.


6 posted on 01/09/2008 11:16:30 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: pacpam

Citigroup.


7 posted on 01/09/2008 11:17:15 PM PST by jd777
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To: chronic cough 420
A recession is when the economy shrinks for six straight months, reports CBS News correspondent Anthony Mason

Technically, 2 quarters of shrinking GDP but some would say less than that. Maybe a few months. We haven't had that quite yet.

This is going to be a bigger and bigger factor in the coming months. It will shape what happens in the elections. And those who get it will be the victors, those who don't, shouldn't be President anyway.

8 posted on 01/09/2008 11:36:11 PM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: chronic cough 420
This was also predicted in one of the last 2007 issues of The Economist. There is also an excellent article in the August 2007 issue of the national Chamber of Commerce magazine about the upcoming economic problems, which begs the question of why anyone would want to be President in 2009 when everything is falling apart.

By the same token, since JFK was President, it has been known that the last thing you want to do is raise taxes during a recession. Clinton's tax hike came during a boom time and lessened its potential. Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and Huckabee ALL want to increase taxes by letting the Bush tax cuts expire. THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA!!!!

Thank you for posting this economic article--it should be re-posted everyday!

9 posted on 01/09/2008 11:44:12 PM PST by MHT
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To: chronic cough 420

Heavy truck (class 8)sales are always a good indicator of which way the economy is going, they are usually 4 to 6 months ahead of the curve. For the past year they have been in a slump but right now they are picking up. Companies don’t invest 150 thousand dollars in a new truck unless they are sure that they are going to have something to haul with it.


10 posted on 01/09/2008 11:47:21 PM PST by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Goldman Sachs has an accuracy rating on its stock picking of about 54%.

A U.N. report earlier today called a 50/50 shot at a global recession.

11 posted on 01/10/2008 12:30:44 AM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: chronic cough 420

what do we do to prepare for recession?.....


12 posted on 01/10/2008 12:38:48 AM PST by cherry
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To: jd777

but Rubin came from GS to the Clinton administration....


13 posted on 01/10/2008 12:40:21 AM PST by cherry
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To: chronic cough 420

If we have a recession 2008 then the Democratic nominee will without a doubt be the next president.


14 posted on 01/10/2008 12:44:33 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: jd777
Citigroup has suffered pretty bad. I'm suprised not much has been said about this mess. The banks are in such bad shape, they don't trust each other and no one knows for sure what's in their level III debt. The Federal Reserve is auctioning loans to banks and they are paying more interest to the Fed than if they just borrowed from each other. Thats not good.

Meanwhile, the oil rich countries have excessive liquidity and are looking to gobble up anything that looks like a bargain. And that is EXACTLY what they are doing. I'm speaking of NOOR, which will be the worlds largest Islamic bank guided by Sharia law. "Noor will become "the world's ultimate Islamic bank," says chief executive officer Hussain Al QamziArticle here

And more: Noor

15 posted on 01/10/2008 12:49:52 AM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: AlaskaErik
Repeat of 1992 "Its the Economy Stupid" Remember? Only this time Mitt Romney, if he is smart, will tackle this before the Democrats. (And no, I am not endorsing him at this point) So its not a foregone conclusion of a Democrat yet. But a pretty good one.

If we slip into the official recession, He is the only one who can compete. If we don't slip into official recession, it will be a close call, barely skirting one.

I'm just waiting for the Republicans to jump on the economy. So far, only Romney sees this, and then, not with eyes wide open yet. This will be a general election issue, so we better pick our candidate well!

16 posted on 01/10/2008 12:57:41 AM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: cherry

Point well taken.


17 posted on 01/10/2008 1:12:51 AM PST by jd777
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To: pacpam
Can I just give Bob Rubin a hard time. GOD KNOWS he didn't do a bad job. And no I'm not going to mention his enron phone calls.

robert rubin led the US Treasury's attack on Mexican bank Banamex for Drug Laundering...

AND..... led Citigroups Acquisition of Banamex when he joined the bank after leaving the clinton Admin. _

he knew the company

18 posted on 01/10/2008 1:25:34 AM PST by jd777
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To: chronic cough 420
Oh I'm sorry, but ASIA has different ideas for 2008.

Thank you very much.

19 posted on 01/10/2008 1:28:24 AM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: cherry

Pray? (A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose your job.)


20 posted on 01/10/2008 2:07:53 AM PST by Freedom4US
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