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New Satellite Promises Better Broadband
Excite news ^ | 9 January 2008 | ANICK JESDANUN

Posted on 01/09/2008 11:33:49 AM PST by ShadowAce

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To: CDHart

This would be great - we only have dialup here, unless we spend major dollars.
Carolyn

I am in the same boat here with dialup we did go into the broadband card with our laptop from AT&T it connects faster and the speed is faster than dialup plus we can operate from the car or take on trips and use if WI FI isnt available.


21 posted on 01/09/2008 12:30:01 PM PST by bikerman (_ _ . /_ _ _ /_ . . / / . . . . / . / . _ . . / . _ _ . / / . . _ / . . . //)
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To: rednesss

Last summer I was camping in Canada and the site had wireless internet fed by a satelllite.

The satellite was so low on the horizon that when a train passed on a near by track it blotted out the receprion. Talk about a lag......


22 posted on 01/09/2008 12:32:57 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: avg_freeper
That's been around for a while, now. Check out my website for a fairly comprehensive take on all of this.

Ping times on the better systems are around 600-700 msec. Not great, but it makes everyday internet access workable. Some SSL-based VPNs can work reasonably well, IPSec VPNs, not so much. Citrix Metaframe remote access clients also work very well over certain satellite-based internet connections.

I've done over 350 of these installations over the past few years. This technology has been a great enabler for small business / rural-based businesses, and for those who need remote access to do their jobs.

23 posted on 01/09/2008 1:41:01 PM PST by Noumenon (Liberalism itself is a hate crime)
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To: Ainast
Yes, HugheNet has notoriously bad 'fair access' policies. That's why I don't do business with them. The new spacenet-based StarBand system offers a 5GB threshold over a rolling 7 day period. As long as you're not downloading movies from NetFlix or Vongo, that's going to be good enough for even fairly heavy business use. WildBlue enterprise sytems offer even higher upload/download thresholds. We sell and install these with great success. www.starlancs.com
24 posted on 01/09/2008 1:47:56 PM PST by Noumenon (Liberalism itself is a hate crime)
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To: Egon

I believe the major problem with VPN and satellites is that in order to get the speed satellite compresses/encodes, and since the VPN data is encrypted, it can’t do anything to compress it and speeds crawl to dialup.

I read somewhere some time ago of a method to get around this. I believe in involved creating tunnels on both ends instead of using PPTP.


25 posted on 01/09/2008 1:48:58 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Noumenon

What’s your view on the VPN problem?


26 posted on 01/09/2008 1:49:44 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
I read somewhere some time ago of a method to get around this. I believe in involved creating tunnels on both ends instead of using PPTP.

Correctamundo. There are appliances that can provide end-to-end VPN acceleration. Good solution if that's what you need. I've got some of these items listed here.

27 posted on 01/09/2008 1:53:57 PM PST by Noumenon (Liberalism itself is a hate crime)
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To: ShadowAce
I am on Wildblue and had good luck with it has a much better Fap policy than Dirctway. The biggest problem is the weather. When it storms you better watch TV unless that is Sat also.LOL
28 posted on 01/09/2008 2:03:37 PM PST by amigatec (Carriers make wonderful diplomatic statements. Subs are for when diplomacy is over.)
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To: dawn53

My friend has HughesNet and I find it to be the most frustrating thing on earth next to dial-up. 600K my butt. If you test the connection on speedtest.net, the latency counter only has 3 digits and it always shows the latency times as 999 so who knows what it really is. Geo orbit is like what 26,000 miles or so, speed of light 186,282 mph, so .14 seconds or so to go up and the same down, everything else involving latency times is just switching equipment and ground hops. No need to bend space-time to improve latency though, just upgrade to better, faster equipment.


29 posted on 01/09/2008 2:04:53 PM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: D-fendr

Encore Networks has a good solution to high-latency VPN issues, and there’s another that I’m looking at right now.

Fact is, business is starting to move away from VPNs and towards solutions like that those offered by Citrix Sytems and by Windows Remote Workplace - both are non-VPN-based. VPNs, quite frankly, are a big pain in the rear. I like Citrix a lot.


30 posted on 01/09/2008 2:05:33 PM PST by Noumenon (Liberalism itself is a hate crime)
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To: rednesss

The satellite service I was frustrated with was hughes.net.


31 posted on 01/09/2008 2:16:16 PM PST by dawn53
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To: Spktyr

>>That’s nice, but you’re still going to have a 250ms minimum ping time, rendering this USELESS for online gaming.<<

I doubt it would be that good.

((26 200 * 2) / 186 000) * 1 000 = 281.72043

So 282 ms is the theoretical best if there are no other latency sources.


32 posted on 01/09/2008 2:45:21 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: ShadowAce
I am also stuck with you know what, however verizon is going to plant a cell tower in my back yard, so I am looking forward to trying evdo.
33 posted on 01/09/2008 3:11:21 PM PST by dialup (28800 on a good day)
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To: Noumenon

Thanks very much for the info.

Problem for us is we’re quite small - too small for Citrix?

And we’re a Mac shop. No Windows on the network.


34 posted on 01/09/2008 3:23:09 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ShadowAce
Satellite will be a great way to get broadband Internet - in Africa.

In the United States, we should be installing fiber optic cable to every home, school and business.

35 posted on 01/09/2008 9:22:34 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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