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To: Recovering_Democrat
I'll stay with Ronald Reagan's model: when he lost the nomination, after lots of blood, sweat and tears in 1976, and his party nominated a RINO, Reagan stayed, supported the nominee who defeated him, and worked for change within the party.

You do know that party leadership abhored Ronald Reagan, did everything they could to keep him from being elected, and proceded to slander him constantly during his eight year term, then proceded to undermine everything he accomplished as soon as he was out of office?

I'm of the opinion that the party leadership needs to be gutted and replaced with some people who know the difference between right and wrong.  One way to set that up is to make the leadership pay dearly for destroying the party with their liberal antics.

I asked another guy if he thought we had moved as a nation toward the right under Bush.  In some ways I would say we did.  In many I would say we not only didn't, but moved far to the left.

I'll ask you, what do you think our nation would look like if Bush could serve another three terms.  Would it be a conservative haven or a nation that had slid toward the left in so many ways, we wouldn't recognize the place.  IMO it would be the later.  And so, I must sadly say that I cannot support the status quo any longer.

It truly is time for a change.  And I don't mean veering off into the lefternmost part of the universe.

392 posted on 01/09/2008 11:28:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: DoughtyOne

You said this about the Republican Party Leadership and their relationship with Ronald Reagan,

“did everything they could to keep him from being elected, and proceded to slander him constantly during his eight year term, then proceded to undermine everything he accomplished as soon as he was out of office?”

While this statement was somewhat true in 1976 and in the very, very early stages of 1980, you are WAY off base for what takes place from August of 1980 and forward.

I don’t have time to dissect this right now and demonstrate how wrong your post is, but I’ll be back later tonight to do so when I have time.


397 posted on 01/09/2008 11:48:21 AM PST by MarkDel
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To: DoughtyOne
I really don't care if the party leadership abhored Reagan...and I don't know how true it is. The bottom line is for me is Reagan won and became one of America's finest leaders.

If you want to use the history of Reagan's tenure after he was elected, then please consider using his history before he was elected. He hung in there, and changed the world.

The change you call for in leadership is not falling on deaf ears with me...but you don't affect that by walking away. You take yourself out of the equation. When those who care and work for change leave, those worthless leaders you despise will not cry, they will work further to consolidate their power and draw more people, people who don't care, into their realm of influence.

399 posted on 01/09/2008 11:56:50 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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