Me: has the JST been "canonized?"
You: By the LDS church, Yes.
BYU prof Stephen Robinson: First of all, the JST is not canonized Scripture even for the Latter-day Sints, JST Genesis 1-6 and Matthew 24, which are both found in the Pearl of Great Price, excepted. The JST is not the LDS version of the Bible--the KJV is and always has been. (Robinson & Craig Blomberg, How Wide the Divide, IVP, p. 64)
Hmm. Who are we to believe? (You or a BYU prof?)
Are you simply mistaken, DU? Or is the BYU prof?
Me:That's like saying We also know he was not into a system of Christianity, because the word "Christianity" had not been invented yet...
You: Christianity has existed since before the world was.
Thanks for confirming my exact point. Yes, "Christianity" has existed since before the world was--even though it was not a word on the minds of the New Testament authors or a word amongst its pages; it had not yet been invented. So is also true of the Trinity, which also existed since before the world was--even though this specific word was not amongst the New Testament pages.
We also know he was not a trinitarian, because the trinity had not been invented yet...
That's like saying We also know hnow he didn't believe in an "age of accountability," because the phrase "age of accountability" is not in the Bible & had not been invented yet...
That's like saying We also know he didn't believe in a prohibition against "abortion," because the word "abortion" is not in the Bible & had not been invented yet...
That's like saying We also know he didn't "eschatology" was worthy of the New Testament, because the word "eschatology" is not in the Bible & had not been invented yet...
That's like saying We also know that "soteriology" or "hamartiology" wouldn't dawn the doors of New Testament writers because the words "soteriology" and "hamartiology" are not in the Bible & had not been invented yet...
Jesus was not a monothiest, he was a himself a God, and he obeyed his Father, who was a God. Yet, he and the Father were so close that they were and Are one God. Monothiesim is not a philosophy he worried about.
So I guess only Isaiah, most quoted Biblical prophet in the Book of Mormon, was a "philosophical monotheist," eh?
Here, let me help you rewrite the book of Isaiah to match your proper polytheistic philosophy (bold faced words are the changed words to more accurately reflect Mormonology-Smithology):
...before me there was a council of gods formed, plus millions shall there be after me. (Isaiah 43:10, Mormon Inspired Version)
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the J in the Alphabet of gods, but I'm not the last; and beside me are a whole series of gods. (Isaiah 44:6, Mormon Inspired Version, see also Pearl of Great Price, 1:6, Mormon Inspired Version)
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is (and it's a bit crowded up here on Kolob Heights); I know plenty (Isaiah 44:8, Mormon Inspired Version)
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by divine committee; (Isaiah 44:24, Mormon Inspired Version)
for I am God, and my vacancy sign is up; I am God, and all kinds of divine vacancies are open, (Is. 45:5; 46:9, Mormon Inspired Version...Note: Because of the sheer high volume of god positions open, God put an extra "ad" in both chapters 45 & 46)
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there are as many of us as sands on the all the earths. (Is. 45:22, Mormon Inspired Version)
The president of the church is a term reflecting the requirement in the USA for a church to be incorporated as a tax exempt corporation, all the buildings are for example owned by the CORPORATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.Inc Sorry it's all in caps because the charter has it all in caps, there is also a corporation for the presiding bishopric, and a corporation for the welfare arm of the church. Calling him the president of the church is merely a reflection of the reality that he is in charge of the corporation that runs the earthly church...
No...the whole flow & structure of the Mormon church is just one commercial-like enterprise...A forced-fee structure of 10% tithe (or no temple recommend which translates both into being shut out of the temple + no godhood for you); whereas no one single person is the author of the Bible, Doctrine & Covenants 24:1 tells us exactly who the Book of Mormon author is: "Behold, thou wast called and chosen to write the Book of Mormon... ("Revelation" of July 1830); whereas no one single person has copyright of the Bible...the copyright of the Book of Mormon was secured in Smith's name; and even now, just about all of the LDS general authorities are businessmen.
If the LDS church is a "restoration" of the original church--and if Jesus had 24 apostles--12 in the Bible & 12 in the Book of Mormon Americas--why don't LDS have "24" if it's a true "restoration?"
8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.That makes the Bible, with some minor room for clarification, Cannon. I don't care what some Professor at BYU says he is not supposed to be speaking for the church. The questions is, what is his source, can he back it up with more than his opinion?
Is the Bible copyrighted?I know that the addition of Footnotes to the JST allows the LDS church to copyright the Bible we are printing.
Ron
Asheville, North Carolina
Dear Ron:There are no original Biblical copyright holders. The Bible was written by roughly 40 or so people over the span of 1,500 years (from around 1450 B.C. until A.D. 100). It was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek.Many modern translations of the Bible are copyrighted. While several of these Bible copyright holders offer their translations online and allow people to make attributed quotes, they would probably frown upon someone printing their translation and trying to sell it. Besides, since a Bible quote in English is by definition a translation, it's good practice to attribute the source.
As we quickly discovered, copyright law is a complicated affair. Many books become public domain 70 years after the author's death. Of course, it goes without saying that the Bible isn't your average book, so we suggest you check with the publisher. However, the Bible Gateway notes that many versions are in the public domain including the King James Bible.