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To: Tennessee Nana
U Said: There is only one heaven, one level...There are not high and low levels of Glory...the Glory is the Glory of the Lamb of God and there is only one Lamb

The Bible disagrees with you.

2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
David is going to be at the throne of God worshipping the Lamb of God with the rest of us, dancing and singing and having a glorious time

Really, for eternity, man talk about a never ending party.

U Said: I understand that you use this scripture and others to attempt to prove that if you dont work your way into Heaven you can always wait for a descendant to get water baptized in your name and get you out of Hell...although such belief is heresy.

I agree that such a belief would be heresy, which is why I am glad I don't believe that.

U Said: You forgot the rest of the scriptures where Peter spoke about David knowing that Jesus would come and die for him and he believed what God had told him...Acts 2:30, 31

No, I did not forget, there is a clear change of context, so it' not relevant to the time frame we are talking about, but you will just say I have that wrong too.

U Said: Now I had written earlier that it was Jesus that David was talking about and then I changed it because i knew you would argy bargy and pull out your mormon talking points when all the time not knowing what you were saying but just repeating whatever you were told to say... just like a puppet...

This is how it is...


LOL! you couldn't be more wrong, I teach in church, not repeat what I am taught. Puppet, ROTFLOL! (those must be a heck of a set of strings!

Unless you repent and are saved BEFORE you die you will die and go to Hell and theres no getting into Heaven after that...David was talking about Jesus in v31 not you and not your long dead relatives. If they died unsaved they went to Hell and theres no getting into Heaven from there Luke 16:19-31 Abraham in “Abraham’s Bosom speaking to a man in Hell “...between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot, neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence” Luke 16:26

Tell me, are you this insulting in person? IF so you must have scads of friends.

Of course David was speaking of Jesus saving him, and of Course Jesus can cross that Gulf.

Tell me, why did the early Christan's (who had more scriptures than we do) baptize for the dead?

U Said: All the way through that passage Act 2:14-36, whenever Peter quotes David, David is speaking about Jesus being in Hell not David himself...

What an interesting opinion, especially since it contradicts exactly what the scriptures say. U Said: David says.....

Let me help you here with a little highlighting, red is Jesus, bold is David

Because you wilt not leave my soul in Hell and neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption v27 U Said: He (David) seeing this before spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that His soul would not be left in Hell, neither his flesh did see coruption...v31

Jesus could not be sent to hell for he was sinless, remember?

U Said: David is talking about Jesus , the fruit of his loins, his descendant, not David himself...David talks about his flesh not corrupting (rotting) but you claim David was STILL in his brave after 1,000 years so his flesh had to have rotted...Even Lazarus the brother of mary and Martha stunk and was rotting after only FOUR DAYS John 11:39 so we know that the bodies of men of God decomposed over time...

David spoke of Both Jesus and himself, it is the only logical conclusion. David knew that when he was resurrected, his flesh would never again see corruption, it the verse is a testimony of Jesus' saving power and of the resurrection.

U Said: But Jesus never rotted in the grave and His flesh was not corrupted...and His soul was not left in Hell

Yes, we agree on this, death and hell had no power over Jesus, so how could he be left there, and left by whom Jesus is God.

U Said: So unless you are Jesus you are not coming out of Hell and neither are your long dead relatives...Do you have uncorruptable flesh ???

Not yet, but give me a little time.. you will too.

U Said: You either believe and repent now and get saved before you die and go to Heaven or you will be damned and go to hell...Mark 16:16

I have already accepted Jesus as my savior, I am continually repenting of my sins for I am weak. as for whether or not my faith will be sufficient, that remains to be seen.

I had an interesting conversation on FR once, i asked a group of Evangelicals and Protestant's what it took to be saved, then when they had finally agreed upon a formula asked if a Mormons could be saved. The thread ran fro quite some time, and the end result was that they all agreed that I at least had been saved.

The arrogance that you display in your posts IMHO does not become a Christian.

I'm sure you know the scripture about the mote and the beam.
304 posted on 01/12/2008 1:29:45 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
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That man was not dead at the time....


308 posted on 01/12/2008 11:23:46 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DelphiUser

Let me help you here with a little highlighting, red is Jesus, bold is David
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and black is Peter...........


309 posted on 01/12/2008 11:25:21 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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